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Started by Greg May 21, 2004
Hi, I recently posted asking about ethernet on eZ80 microprocessor. Is
there a better processor to use? I spoke with an engineer at Zilog,
and it appears that working with the MAC layer directly is going to be
extremely difficult. Are there any microcontrollers that are better
suited for this task? I need to run it in promiscuous mode, which is
also a problem with the eZ80 because it can actually only support upto
4 Mbps, and I most likely need upto 10. Any suggestions of boards with
easy access to the MAC layer, high data rates, and just good boards
would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
-Greg
gkuperman@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote in
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> Hi, I recently posted asking about ethernet on eZ80 microprocessor. Is > there a better processor to use? I spoke with an engineer at Zilog, > and it appears that working with the MAC layer directly is going to be > extremely difficult. Are there any microcontrollers that are better > suited for this task? I need to run it in promiscuous mode, which is > also a problem with the eZ80 because it can actually only support upto > 4 Mbps, and I most likely need upto 10. Any suggestions of boards with > easy access to the MAC layer, high data rates, and just good boards > would be highly appreciated. Thanks.
You might look at the IBM PowerPC 405 series CPUs. AMCC is now responsible for this line now but the part is fast, has a built in MAC which you could set to receive all frames, and can use cheap PC133 SDRAM chips or SRAM if you don't need much memory. -- - Mark -> --
Take a look at our dev boards....www.netburner.com

If you are looking for a CPU, try the Motorola Coldfire parts
at the low end of the product line 10/100 MAC and 32 bit processor can be had for < $9.00


Paul 



On 21 May 2004 12:19:41 -0700, gkuperman@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote:

>Hi, I recently posted asking about ethernet on eZ80 microprocessor. Is >there a better processor to use? I spoke with an engineer at Zilog, >and it appears that working with the MAC layer directly is going to be >extremely difficult. Are there any microcontrollers that are better >suited for this task? I need to run it in promiscuous mode, which is >also a problem with the eZ80 because it can actually only support upto >4 Mbps, and I most likely need upto 10. Any suggestions of boards with >easy access to the MAC layer, high data rates, and just good boards >would be highly appreciated. Thanks. >-Greg
gkuperman@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote in message news:<b4d8ab81.0405211119.2b481b97@posting.google.com>...
> Hi, I recently posted asking about ethernet on eZ80 microprocessor. Is > there a better processor to use? I spoke with an engineer at Zilog, > and it appears that working with the MAC layer directly is going to be > extremely difficult. Are there any microcontrollers that are better > suited for this task? I need to run it in promiscuous mode, which is > also a problem with the eZ80 because it can actually only support upto > 4 Mbps, and I most likely need upto 10. Any suggestions of boards with > easy access to the MAC layer, high data rates, and just good boards > would be highly appreciated. Thanks. > -Greg
Look at the Motorola PowerPC MPC8xx processors. They have what you are looking for, in many flavors. Look around, you'll find boards, perhaps even reasonably priced. You may look ar http://www.connotech.com/ppcmb850_toolkit_index.htm. -- - Thierry Moreau CONNOTECH Experts-conseils inc. 9130 Place de Montgolfier Montreal, Qc H2M 2A1 Tel.: (514)385-5691 Fax: (514)385-5900 web site: http://www.connotech.com e-mail: thierry.moreau@connotech.com
On 21 May 2004 12:19:41 -0700, gkuperman@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote:

>Hi, I recently posted asking about ethernet on eZ80 microprocessor. Is >there a better processor to use? I spoke with an engineer at Zilog, >and it appears that working with the MAC layer directly is going to be >extremely difficult. Are there any microcontrollers that are better >suited for this task? I need to run it in promiscuous mode, which is >also a problem with the eZ80 because it can actually only support upto >4 Mbps, and I most likely need upto 10. Any suggestions of boards with >easy access to the MAC layer, high data rates, and just good boards >would be highly appreciated. Thanks. >-Greg
There are plenty of ARMs with integrated Ethernet controllers, and the Samsung S3C4510B is one we have used. This chip is used in many of the cheap four port routers. It can be had for less than US$7.50 in volume. As for boards, contact me by email (remove XXX and INVALID.) and I'll see if our client can supply you. Stephen -- Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@INVALID.mpeltd.demon.co.uk MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691 web: http://www.mpeltd.demon.co.uk - free VFX Forth downloads
Stephen Pelc <stephenXXX@INVALID.mpeltd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: On 21 May 2004 12:19:41 -0700, gkuperman@yahoo.com (Greg) wrote:


: There are plenty of ARMs with integrated Ethernet controllers, and
: the Samsung S3C4510B is one we have used. This chip is used in many
: of the cheap four port routers. It can be had for less than US$7.50
: in volume.

Hello Stephen,

Do you know of a source that will supply the 4510B in one or two qty.
I have someone looking for some.

Greg


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Greg Holdren
greg (dot) holdren (at) <initials of company> (dot) com

On 24 May 2004 11:52:48 -0600, Greg Holdren <gregh@wx.rose.hp.com>
wrote:

>Do you know of a source that will supply the 4510B in one or two qty. >I have someone looking for some.
I get mine from an Australian client. We got the dev board from WBC (???) in the UK, so I expect they have proto quantities as well. Regards, Stephen -- Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@INVALID.mpeltd.demon.co.uk MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691 web: http://www.mpeltd.demon.co.uk - free VFX Forth downloads
On Fri, 21 May 2004 13:17:25 -0700, pbreed@netburner.com wrote:

>Take a look at our dev boards....www.netburner.com > >If you are looking for a CPU, try the Motorola Coldfire parts >at the low end of the product line 10/100 MAC and 32 bit processor can be had for < $9.00
But too bad they have no integrated PHY => always a 2 chip solution. _Or_: Are the RJ connectors which include everything but the MAC ? --- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@epost.de instead !