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Started by Ulf Reiman August 31, 2005
On 5 Sep 2005 23:02:32 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@mh.se> wrote:

>It is a project at my University, and we do not have money for >commercial products unfortunately. so i do not have any choice
Ah, many vendors offer school-licenses (ours is 50% off), but some restrict the support (we not) on those licenses. OTOH, you learn a lot more when porting/debugging a "free" RTOS. -- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
Who areyou working for?
What RTOS?

/Ulf

On 6 Sep 2005 01:14:37 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@mh.se> wrote:

>Who areyou working for?
www.sciopta.com
>What RTOS?
Sciopta. But AVR is not yet released. But (my boss will kill me :-) ) check out ENEA OSE (Swedish !). Both Sciopta and OSE are direct message passing OSes, which is ideal for protocol stacks. -- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:33:40 GMT, bastian42@yahoo.com (42Bastian
Schick) wrote:

>On 6 Sep 2005 01:14:37 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@mh.se> wrote: > >>Who areyou working for? >www.sciopta.com > >>What RTOS? > >Sciopta. > >But AVR is not yet released. > >But (my boss will kill me :-) ) check out ENEA OSE (Swedish !).
ENEA OSE seems to support mostly 32 bit processors. With a footprint of 100K, there is not much of chance to use it on an 8-bit MCU. Regards Anton Erasmus
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:27:12 +0200, Anton Erasmus
<nobody@spam.prevent.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:33:40 GMT, bastian42@yahoo.com (42Bastian >Schick) wrote: > >>On 6 Sep 2005 01:14:37 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@mh.se> wrote: >> >>>Who areyou working for? >>www.sciopta.com >> >>>What RTOS? >> >>Sciopta. >> >>But AVR is not yet released. >> >>But (my boss will kill me :-) ) check out ENEA OSE (Swedish !). > >ENEA OSE seems to support mostly 32 bit processors. With a footprint >of 100K, there is not much of chance to use it on an 8-bit MCU.
Although I no longer work for ENEA, I have to say, you are wrong. OSE Epsilson runs on AVR,C16x and now HCS12 (Sciopta currently only HCS12). The Epsilon ARM Kernel (I worked at) is about 5K. What you are referening to is OSE Delta (which is comparable with full blown Sciopta but _much_ larger). -- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 05:25:12 GMT, bastian42@yahoo.com (42Bastian
Schick) wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:27:12 +0200, Anton Erasmus ><nobody@spam.prevent.net> wrote: > >>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:33:40 GMT, bastian42@yahoo.com (42Bastian >>Schick) wrote: >> >>>On 6 Sep 2005 01:14:37 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@mh.se> wrote: >>> >>>>Who areyou working for? >>>www.sciopta.com >>> >>>>What RTOS? >>> >>>Sciopta. >>> >>>But AVR is not yet released. >>> >>>But (my boss will kill me :-) ) check out ENEA OSE (Swedish !). >> >>ENEA OSE seems to support mostly 32 bit processors. With a footprint >>of 100K, there is not much of chance to use it on an 8-bit MCU. > >Although I no longer work for ENEA, I have to say, you are wrong. > >OSE Epsilson runs on AVR,C16x and now HCS12 (Sciopta currently only >HCS12). > >The Epsilon ARM Kernel (I worked at) is about 5K. > >What you are referening to is OSE Delta (which is comparable with full >blown Sciopta but _much_ larger)
I only did a quick browse through their web site. The whole site seems to be targeted at non-technical people. If their documentation is as unclear as their web site, I would stay a million miles away from their product(s). Regards Anton Erasmus
No. Not a hobby project. However it is a shoestring budget R&D. Most 
commercial OS'es I've looked at are ridiculously expensive--$20K and up... 
WAY out of our ball park. $3-5K maybe---$20K+... I can't sell it to 
management.

Bo

"42Bastian Schick" <bastian42@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> On 31 Aug 2005 02:08:51 -0700, "Ulf Reiman" <ulf.reiman@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>Hi! >>I am looking for a free Operation system that can be used for 8-bits >>CPU, AVR; I am using a card with Atmega 128 and CC2420. I will > > Just out of curiousity: Why free ? Is it a hobby project ? > If not, save your employers money and buy a commercial one with a good > support. > > -- > 42Bastian > Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) > Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:27:55 -0500, "Bo" <bo@cephus.com> wrote:

>No. Not a hobby project. However it is a shoestring budget R&D. Most >commercial OS'es I've looked at are ridiculously expensive--$20K and up... >WAY out of our ball park. $3-5K maybe---$20K+... I can't sell it to >management.
< 5k => go ask at sales@sciopta.com (other then AVR, as I said, it is not yet released, but M16C or HCS12 have the same price). -- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:09:10 +0200, Anton Erasmus
<nobody@spam.prevent.net> wrote:


>>OSE Epsilson runs on AVR,C16x and now HCS12 (Sciopta currently only >>HCS12). >> >>The Epsilon ARM Kernel (I worked at) is about 5K. >> >>What you are referening to is OSE Delta (which is comparable with full >>blown Sciopta but _much_ larger) > >I only did a quick browse through their web site. The whole site >seems to be targeted at non-technical people. If their documentation >is as unclear as their web site, I would stay a million miles away >from their product(s).
I cannot jugde on Delta, but the Epsilon products docu is well. -- 42Bastian Do not email to bastian42@yahoo.com, it's a spam-only account :-) Use <same-name>@monlynx.de instead !
What is comments about my looking for a free Operation system that can
be used for 8-bits
CPU, AVR; I am using a card with Atmega 128 and CC2420. I will
implement the IEEE 802.4.15 protocol stack but a need an OS that can
take care of the stack. 

Regards 
Ulf Reiman