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cheapest way for embedded TCP/IP stack?

Started by kathy October 6, 2004
I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for
low volume products. My question are:

1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? 

2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to
use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)?

3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
kathy wrote:
> I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for > low volume products. My question are: > > 1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > > 2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to > use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? >
ez80F91 has stack (not stack stack though?) and MAC, so you just need the PHY to complete. I'm designing "something" with it at the moment, the devkit is cheap enough, the docs a bit stodgy, and the tools on the primitive side. But so far so good. You really need the programmer, as they don't seem to document that side of things much. Paul Burke
kathy wrote:

> I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for > low volume products. My question are: > > 1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > > 2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to > use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? > > 3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
try also http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc4002.pdf
>I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for >low volume products. My question are: > >1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > >2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to >use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? > >3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
If this is for quick thing, consider the Rabbit Core Modules ( www.rabbitsemiconductor.com ) . They do have TCP Stack along with a hole lot of other stuff, are fairly cheap etc. To get you started you must buy one of their SDK's but they are also low priced. Apart from this there are no royalites or such. If you have your own hardware design, you may want to port one of those free TCP/IP stacks to it on your own. HTH Markus
catherine_usa@hotmail.com (kathy) wrote in message news:<c340509c.0410060639.10aa61d8@posting.google.com>...
> I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for > low volume products. My question are: > > 1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > > 2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to > use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? > > 3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
Rabbit Semiconductor has inexpensive, Ethernet-ready microprocessor core modules and development kits including full development tools and a robust and mature TCP/IP stack in source code format. http://www.rabbitsemiconductor.com There are no royalties or license fees.
On 6 Oct 2004 07:39:19 -0700, catherine_usa@hotmail.com (kathy) wrote:

>I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for >low volume products. My question are: > >1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > >2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to >use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? > >3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
Hi, I just can back from a Renesas (formerly Hitachi/Mitsubushi) seminar. Basically they were touting that they'll provide reference code TCP/IP stack for all of their micro products -- for free. This covers SH-X, H8/300H, H8S/2000, M16C and even H8/300 (in some limited functionality). The stack runs on RTOS and non-RTOS systems. The catch is -- you have to buy their micros and sign an NDA saying that you won't port the code to a different manufacturer ;-) Ken. +====================================+ I hate junk email. Please direct any genuine email to: kenlee at hotpop.com
Hi kathy,

I will try to give You some more examples:

- There are lots of free projects for TCP/IP on PIC-,AVR-Controller and 
8051 : i.e. http://www.ethernut.de/ or try "Free TCP/IP AVR" at google

- If You want a controller with more "power" :-) you can have a look at 
the ecos site (http://sources.redhat.com) and find a controller 
supported by ecos. You can go the same way with other OS as well. So You 
can find a controller with appropriate OS-Support and 
features/performance You need.

- Use the controller of your choice and XPort (www.lantronix.com) on the 
serial port for the network connection.

- There's a book called "TCP/IP lean" from Jeremy Bentham telling You 
how to build a small TCP/IP-Stack (with Sources on CD).


Michael





kathy wrote:
> I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for > low volume products. My question are: > > 1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack? > > 2. I heard of eZ80, Maxim's DS400, ... Can anyone tell me how easy to > use it and any hiden cost(have to buy something to use it...)? > > 3. Is any 8051 with on-chip TCP/IP stack stack available?
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catherine_usa@hotmail.com (kathy) wrote in message news:<c340509c.0410060639.10aa61d8@posting.google.com>...
> I found CMX-MicroNet and some other TCP/IP stack is very expensive for > low volume products. My question are: > > 1. Is any microcontroller has on-chip TCP/IP stack stack?
There are several free TCP/IP stacks that are appropriate for microcontrollers. http://www.sics.se/~adam/uip/ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/lwip/ http://www.opentcp.org All of the above have been ported to numerous MCUs as well as several open source and commericial RTOSs.
Do you know Web51? How about that?

The reason is that I am more familar with 8051.