Electrical schematic entry software / Subcontracting cabling

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Anton Erasmus wrote:

>You can look at a package called Harnware. Raychem (Now bought out by
>Tyco IIRC) used to give away a license to this package if one placed a
>reasonable sized order with them. It is quite easy to use,
>specifically for military type harnesses.

They appear to now be charging an annual license fee of �250

There is a download here:
[ http://www.harnware.com/downloads/HarnWareV4_5_29.zip ]

It's 4.3 MB and I am on a remote jobsite with a slow connection
at the moment.  I will post a report later after I download and 
test it.

-- 
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

> >You can look at a package called Harnware.
> They appear to now be charging an annual license fee of =A3250
>
> There is a download here:
> [http://www.harnware.com/downloads/HarnWareV4_5_29.zip]
>

Looks nice, Altough i'm unable to run the download (dongle missing) .
Where did you find the pricing info ?

Stan

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stijnvanorbeek@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> >You can look at a package called Harnware.
>> They appear to now be charging an annual license fee of �250
>>
>> There is a download here:
>> [http://www.harnware.com/downloads/HarnWareV4_5_29.zip]
>
>Looks nice, Altough i'm unable to run the download (dongle missing) .
>Where did you find the pricing info ?

http://www.harnware.com/forum/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=123&TOPIC_ID=204&FORUM_ID=31

Which says:

|
|From: HarnWare Manager
|Date: 18/07/2007 : 14:53:49
|Subject: Vista compatibility
|
|Daryl,
|If you can wait until our planned release date of August 
|1st we strongly recommend that you install HarnWare V5.4 
|with Vista. To upgrade from V4.5 we encourage users to 
|attend one days upgrade training but later version 
|upgrades are free. We have, however, introduced an 
|annual license fee of �250 to help fund support and 
|new development work.
|
|V5.3 is only available on CD.
|Regards
|Ken
|

-- 
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

On Oct 7, 4:28 am, stijnvanorb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Do you also send netlists ?
>
> No, we send a electrical schematic and photographs of a prototype.
>
> > What sort of errors do they make - incorrect nets, or incorrect wire
> > stub lengths, or incorrect crimp details ?
>
> All sorts of errors, they sometimes wire a circular corrector in the
> wrong directions, they insert the male contacts into female
> connectors, mistake black/white and white/black wires.. I could
> offcoarse blame the subcontractor, but i think that sometimes they
> just don't know howto.
>
> > A good SCH Entry program, with some simple library effort
> > and reports, should make this less confusing ?
>
> > ie
>
> > ** Netnames can be the wire colour codes,
> > ** Nett Attributes can include mfg comments
> > ** Stub dimensioning arrows/text can come from the librtary as
> >     2D combined lines/text
> > ** Connector Attributes can expand to include Terminal.CrimpType
> > ** Connector Attributes can expand to include Terminal.WireSize
>
> ok. I agree. Maybe is should include much more details. I take it for
> granted that they use the correct terminal for a certain wire size..
> Maybe i should add much more details.

For a project that I worked on years ago, I made simple assembly
drawings for each cable.  The drawings were made using a GP drawing
package.  I suppose a lite version of Autocad would be used today.
Each cable drawing included a BOM, plus 2-d drawings for each
connector, the length to cut each wire, and where each pin went into
what connector.  For ribbon cable/IDC connectors, I even showed how to
fold the ribbon cable, which had needed some 90 degree turns.  As a
sanity check, we also made up two sets of cables, one for us and the
other for the assembler.  I've also made some cable assemblies in my
home lab, as a sub-contractor.  (Shameless plug: if anyone needs
cables assembled, I'm interested.)
-Dave Pollum