We are contemplating using the STM8 for a high-volume automotive application. We haven't been able to find a good end-of-line programming solution. We typically program our microcontrollers after the circuit boards are fully assembled. For the Freescale parts, we've been using, we had good luck with P&E Micro's Cyclone Pro: http://www.pemicro.com/products/product_viewDetails.cfm?product_id=1&CFID=305902&CFTOKEN=65226101 But we haven't found a good SWIM programmer for the STM8. I welcome all ideas. Thanks a lot. -- David T. Ashley (dta@e3ft.com) http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page) http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page) http://gpl.e3ft.com (GPL Publications and Projects)
ST Microelectronics STM8 Programmer?
Started by ●June 4, 2008
Reply by ●June 4, 20082008-06-04
"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message news:U-mdnQqFHb4xJtvVnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com...> We are contemplating using the STM8 for a high-volume automotive > application. > > We haven't been able to find a good end-of-line programming solution. We > typically program our microcontrollers after the circuit boards are fully > assembled. > > For the Freescale parts, we've been using, we had good luck with P&E > Micro's Cyclone Pro: > > http://www.pemicro.com/products/product_viewDetails.cfm?product_id=1&CFID=305902&CFTOKEN=65226101 > > But we haven't found a good SWIM programmer for the STM8. > > I welcome all ideas. >Hi David, What sort of volumes are you talking about when you say high? This makes a difference to the possible solutions as you could do them in circuit or before they are built onto the PCB. Also this is a pretty new part I think so maybe some support from ST would be appropriate. -- DaveN
Reply by ●June 4, 20082008-06-04
David T. Ashley wrote:> We are contemplating using the STM8 for a high-volume automotive > application. > > We haven't been able to find a good end-of-line programming solution. We > typically program our microcontrollers after the circuit boards are fully > assembled.Talk with a ST FAE ? They usually have a short-list of programmer vendors, and Batch-Mode production programming is not an unusual request, so ST are likely to either have a solution, or know of one that is 'real close' to release from a 3rd party. -jg
Reply by ●June 7, 20082008-06-07
Havent used this with the STM8 myself yet, but I have always found this to be a decent tool: http://www.raisonance.com/products/RLink.php I work on ST support for a disty, so will have a look over the next week... Martin. "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message news:U-mdnQqFHb4xJtvVnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com...> We are contemplating using the STM8 for a high-volume automotive > application. > > We haven't been able to find a good end-of-line programming solution. We > typically program our microcontrollers after the circuit boards are fully > assembled. > > For the Freescale parts, we've been using, we had good luck with P&E > Micro's Cyclone Pro: > > http://www.pemicro.com/products/product_viewDetails.cfm?product_id=1&CFID=305902&CFTOKEN=65226101 > > But we haven't found a good SWIM programmer for the STM8. > > I welcome all ideas. > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > David T. Ashley (dta@e3ft.com) > http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page) > http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page) > http://gpl.e3ft.com (GPL Publications and Projects) >
Reply by ●November 25, 20082008-11-25
Hello David, have you already found a solution? We have exactly the same problem. We need a batchable firmware programming solution which provide error handling and pass/fail handling. The STM8 must be in circuit programmed over SWIM, stand alone programming is not possible. We typically program the boards as part of the in circuit test. Thanks a lot WOODZ>Havent used this with the STM8 myself yet, but I have always found thisto>be a decent tool: > >http://www.raisonance.com/products/RLink.php > >I work on ST support for a disty, so will have a look over the nextweek...> >Martin. > >"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message >news:U-mdnQqFHb4xJtvVnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com... >> We are contemplating using the STM8 for a high-volume automotive >> application. >> >> We haven't been able to find a good end-of-line programming solution.We>> typically program our microcontrollers after the circuit boards arefully>> assembled. >> >> For the Freescale parts, we've been using, we had good luck with P&E >> Micro's Cyclone Pro: >> >>http://www.pemicro.com/products/product_viewDetails.cfm?product_id=1&CFID=305902&CFTOKEN=65226101>> >> But we haven't found a good SWIM programmer for the STM8. >> >> I welcome all ideas. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> -- >> David T. Ashley (dta@e3ft.com) >> http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page) >> http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page) >> http://gpl.e3ft.com (GPL Publications and Projects) >> > >
Reply by ●November 26, 20082008-11-26
woodz wrote:> > have you already found a solution? We have exactly the same > problem. We need a batchable firmware programming solution which > provide error handling and pass/fail handling. The STM8 must be > in circuit programmed over SWIM, stand alone programming is not > possible. We typically program the boards as part of the in > circuit test.Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all irrelevant material. See the following links: <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html> <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google) <http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers) -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.
Reply by ●November 26, 20082008-11-26
What is top-posting? The Lizard "CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:492DEFE7.878C4C9F@yahoo.com...> woodz wrote: >> >> have you already found a solution? We have exactly the same >> problem. We need a batchable firmware programming solution which >> provide error handling and pass/fail handling. The STM8 must be >> in circuit programmed over SWIM, stand alone programming is not >> possible. We typically program the boards as part of the in >> circuit test. > > Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed > with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all > irrelevant material. See the following links: > > <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> > <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html> > <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> > <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google) > <http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers) > > -- > [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) > [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> > Try the download section.
Reply by ●November 27, 20082008-11-27
Jujitsu Lizard wrote: *** top-posting corrected ***> "CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> woodz wrote: >>> >>> have you already found a solution? We have exactly the same >>> problem. We need a batchable firmware programming solution which >>> provide error handling and pass/fail handling. The STM8 must be >>> in circuit programmed over SWIM, stand alone programming is not >>> possible. We typically program the boards as part of the in >>> circuit test. >> >> Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed >> with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all >> irrelevant material. See the following links: >> >> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> >> <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html> >> <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> >> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google) >> <http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers) > > What is top-posting?On the minor possibility that you didn't read my post, do so now. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.
Reply by ●November 27, 20082008-11-27
Aren't top posts handled automatically?
On my original post ("What is top posting?"), I put it at the top.
On your reply, it is at the bottom.
This happens automatically, right?
So if it gets moved to the bottom automatically, why shouldn't I put my
comments at the top?
The Lizard
"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Jujitsu Lizard wrote: *** top-posting corrected ***
>> "CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> woodz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> have you already found a solution? We have exactly the same
>>>> problem. We need a batchable firmware programming solution which
>>>> provide error handling and pass/fail handling. The STM8 must be
>>>> in circuit programmed over SWIM, stand alone programming is not
>>>> possible. We typically program the boards as part of the in
>>>> circuit test.
>>>
>>> Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
>>> with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
>>> irrelevant material. See the following links:
>>>
>>> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
>>> <http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
>>> <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
>>> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/> (taming google)
>>> <http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/> (newusers)
>>
>> What is top-posting?
>
> On the minor possibility that you didn't read my post, do so now.
>
> --
> [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
> [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
> Try the download section.
Reply by ●November 28, 20082008-11-28
Jujitsu Lizard wrote:> > Aren't top posts handled automatically? > > On my original post ("What is top posting?"), I put it at the top. > On your reply, it is at the bottom. This happens automatically, > right? So if it gets moved to the bottom automatically, why > shouldn't I put my comments at the top?No, they aren't moved automatically. This is your last chance to avoid plonking, just in case you really believe such misinformation. Just read the references I provided. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.
