Philips-Apps LPC214x

Started by Joe February 23, 2005

Philips-Apps

I know Philips does not like to post information before the product
is real.

However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a LPC2138
and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148 when
it is available.

Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.

I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is slow
and inefficient.

Thank in advance.

Joe



An Engineer's Guide to the LPC2100 Series

I second this. I am close to getting board made with 213x but if I can make it compatible with a future move to usb ...

Owen Philips-Apps

I know Philips does not like to post information before the product
is real.

However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a LPC2138
and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148 when
it is available.

Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.



Bump

My timing was a little off before ;-)
I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
the 2129/2138.

I repeat my plea

IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
(SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.

If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with USB is
to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the pinout
will be affected ;-)

It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware, because
I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.

Thanks in advance

Joe Bougher
Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
2701 Kent Av.
West Lafayette IN 47906
(765) 463-4527 --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
>
> Philips-Apps
>
> I know Philips does not like to post information before the product
> is real.
>
> However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
LPC2138
> and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
when
> it is available.
>
> Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
> change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
>
> I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
slow
> and inefficient.
>
> Thank in advance.
>
> Joe




Hi Joe,

The 2138 does not have a 1.8V input. Only 3.3V is needed to run the
2138.

You can get samples and buy units from Arrow Electronics. They have
around 2K in stock.

regards,
Charles --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
>
> Bump
>
> My timing was a little off before ;-)
> I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> the 2129/2138.
>
> I repeat my plea
>
> IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
>
> If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with USB is
> to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the pinout
> will be affected ;-)
>
> It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
> production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware, because
> I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Joe Bougher
> Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> 2701 Kent Av.
> West Lafayette IN 47906
> (765) 463-4527 > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Philips-Apps
> >
> > I know Philips does not like to post information before the product
> > is real.
> >
> > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> LPC2138
> > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> when
> > it is available.
> >
> > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
> > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> >
> > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
> slow
> > and inefficient.
> >
> > Thank in advance.
> >
> > Joe




The 2129 requires 1.8V, and is in production.
I have received 2 samples of the 2138 from Arrow and they are trying
to get me 2 more.

and my stock check at Arrow at 10:11am 4-13-05 shows
"Philips LPC2132FBD64-S $7.49 Qty:1,914
Philips LPC2138FBD64-S Call For Quote.1-877-237-8621"

So the 2132 is in stock, the 2138 samples are available in limited
quantity.

Joe
Order Online
--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> The 2138 does not have a 1.8V input. Only 3.3V is needed to run the
> 2138.
>
> You can get samples and buy units from Arrow Electronics. They have
> around 2K in stock.
>
> regards,
> Charles > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Bump
> >
> > My timing was a little off before ;-)
> > I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> > the 2129/2138.
> >
> > I repeat my plea
> >
> > IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> > (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> > PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
> >
> > If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with USB is
> > to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the pinout
> > will be affected ;-)
> >
> > It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
> > production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> > secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware, because
> > I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Joe Bougher
> > Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> > 2701 Kent Av.
> > West Lafayette IN 47906
> > (765) 463-4527
> >
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Philips-Apps
> > >
> > > I know Philips does not like to post information before the product
> > > is real.
> > >
> > > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> > LPC2138
> > > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> > when
> > > it is available.
> > >
> > > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
> > > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > >
> > > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
> > slow
> > > and inefficient.
> > >
> > > Thank in advance.
> > >
> > > Joe




Hi Joe,

Let me know if you need anymore. I just checked our stock for 2138
and we have 400 in stock with 400 more coming. I can also send you two
samples if Arrow has problems getting more (free!).

regards,
Charles

--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
>
> The 2129 requires 1.8V, and is in production.
> I have received 2 samples of the 2138 from Arrow and they are trying
> to get me 2 more.
>
> and my stock check at Arrow at 10:11am 4-13-05 shows
> "Philips LPC2132FBD64-S $7.49 Qty:1,914
> Philips LPC2138FBD64-S Call For Quote.1-877-237-8621"
>
> So the 2132 is in stock, the 2138 samples are available in limited
> quantity.
>
> Joe >
> Order Online
> --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > The 2138 does not have a 1.8V input. Only 3.3V is needed to run the
> > 2138.
> >
> > You can get samples and buy units from Arrow Electronics. They have
> > around 2K in stock.
> >
> > regards,
> > Charles
> >
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bump
> > >
> > > My timing was a little off before ;-)
> > > I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> > > the 2129/2138.
> > >
> > > I repeat my plea
> > >
> > > IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> > > (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> > > PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > >
> > > If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with
USB is
> > > to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the
pinout
> > > will be affected ;-)
> > >
> > > It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
> > > production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> > > secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware,
because
> > > I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Joe Bougher
> > > Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> > > 2701 Kent Av.
> > > West Lafayette IN 47906
> > > (765) 463-4527
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Philips-Apps
> > > >
> > > > I know Philips does not like to post information before the
product
> > > > is real.
> > > >
> > > > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> > > LPC2138
> > > > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> > > when
> > > > it is available.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject to
> > > > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > > >
> > > > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
> > > slow
> > > > and inefficient.
> > > >
> > > > Thank in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Joe




Hello Joe,

I created a folder in the files section "LPC2148". In here is a pdf
file showing a preliminary pinout for the LPC2148. This was given
to me by a Philips rep. via may local distributor, so you might want
to double check with Philips before using it.

I requested it because I am using an LPC2138, and I am leaving the
option to add USB to may board much as you are doing. Since I am
working on a prototype which will not be in production for some
time, I'm not too worried about using the preliminary pinout.

Jeff W --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
>
> Bump
>
> My timing was a little off before ;-)
> I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> the 2129/2138.
>
> I repeat my plea
>
> IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
>
> If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with
USB is
> to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the
pinout
> will be affected ;-)
>
> It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
> production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware,
because
> I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Joe Bougher
> Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> 2701 Kent Av.
> West Lafayette IN 47906
> (765) 463-4527 > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Philips-Apps
> >
> > I know Philips does not like to post information before the
product
> > is real.
> >
> > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> LPC2138
> > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> when
> > it is available.
> >
> > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject
to
> > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> >
> > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
> slow
> > and inefficient.
> >
> > Thank in advance.
> >
> > Joe




Thank you very much!!!!!!

This will allow at least a chance optimizing the layout now.

Thanks again
Joe --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "wittrockjeff" <jwittrock@m...> wrote:
>
> Hello Joe,
>
> I created a folder in the files section "LPC2148". In here is a pdf
> file showing a preliminary pinout for the LPC2148. This was given
> to me by a Philips rep. via may local distributor, so you might want
> to double check with Philips before using it.
>
> I requested it because I am using an LPC2138, and I am leaving the
> option to add USB to may board much as you are doing. Since I am
> working on a prototype which will not be in production for some
> time, I'm not too worried about using the preliminary pinout.
>
> Jeff W > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Bump
> >
> > My timing was a little off before ;-)
> > I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> > the 2129/2138.
> >
> > I repeat my plea
> >
> > IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> > (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> > PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
> >
> > If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with
> USB is
> > to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the
> pinout
> > will be affected ;-)
> >
> > It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be available in
> > production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> > secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware,
> because
> > I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Joe Bougher
> > Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> > 2701 Kent Av.
> > West Lafayette IN 47906
> > (765) 463-4527
> >
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Philips-Apps
> > >
> > > I know Philips does not like to post information before the
> product
> > > is real.
> > >
> > > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> > LPC2138
> > > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> > when
> > > it is available.
> > >
> > > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary (subject
> to
> > > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > >
> > > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and it is
> > slow
> > > and inefficient.
> > >
> > > Thank in advance.
> > >
> > > Joe




Charles
Thank you for your kind offer, I will wait and see what Arrow finds out.
Are you with a distributor, and if so which one?
Would I be able to order some from Indiana USA?
Now that I know which pins are reserved for USB, it is back to the
layout. If the 2138's are really available I may eliminate the 2129
option jumpers, the CAN circuit and the 1.8V regulator section.
Instead I will add a option for the 2148.
As always with Murphy law the data+/- pins are buried deep ;-), better
now than later

Thanks
Joe --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Let me know if you need anymore. I just checked our stock for 2138
> and we have 400 in stock with 400 more coming. I can also send you two
> samples if Arrow has problems getting more (free!).
>
> regards,
> Charles
>
> --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> >
> > The 2129 requires 1.8V, and is in production.
> > I have received 2 samples of the 2138 from Arrow and they are trying
> > to get me 2 more.
> >
> > and my stock check at Arrow at 10:11am 4-13-05 shows
> > "Philips LPC2132FBD64-S $7.49 Qty:1,914
> > Philips LPC2138FBD64-S Call For Quote.1-877-237-8621"
> >
> > So the 2132 is in stock, the 2138 samples are available in limited
> > quantity.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > Order Online
> > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Joe,
> > >
> > > The 2138 does not have a 1.8V input. Only 3.3V is needed to
run the
> > > 2138.
> > >
> > > You can get samples and buy units from Arrow Electronics. They
have
> > > around 2K in stock.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bump
> > > >
> > > > My timing was a little off before ;-)
> > > > I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper options for
> > > > the 2129/2138.
> > > >
> > > > I repeat my plea
> > > >
> > > > IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> > > > (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> > > > PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > > >
> > > > If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with
> USB is
> > > > to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the
> pinout
> > > > will be affected ;-)
> > > >
> > > > It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be
available in
> > > > production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both CAN and
> > > > secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware,
> because
> > > > I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > > Joe Bougher
> > > > Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> > > > 2701 Kent Av.
> > > > West Lafayette IN 47906
> > > > (765) 463-4527
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Philips-Apps
> > > > >
> > > > > I know Philips does not like to post information before the
> product
> > > > > is real.
> > > > >
> > > > > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> > > > LPC2138
> > > > > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the LPC2148
> > > > when
> > > > > it is available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary
(subject to
> > > > > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and
it is
> > > > slow
> > > > > and inefficient.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe




Hi Joe,

No problem. We get all our parts through Arrow, but we are part of
the Advantage program. What that means is our distributor is in Canada
(Halifax) but they represent all the upper east cost companies. I have
found that several people in this group have made several comments
that they have had problems getting the 2138, where my experince is
that we have had no problem at all. I guess it's all in who you talk to.

Let me know and I can ship a couple out your way.

Also thanks for asking about the 2148 since I was intereseted in
that as well. It seemed that Philips was being very tight lipped about
it. This will allow me to make some changes on my design for the 2148 now.

regards,
Charles
--- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
>
> Charles
> Thank you for your kind offer, I will wait and see what Arrow finds out.
> Are you with a distributor, and if so which one?
> Would I be able to order some from Indiana USA?
> Now that I know which pins are reserved for USB, it is back to the
> layout. If the 2138's are really available I may eliminate the 2129
> option jumpers, the CAN circuit and the 1.8V regulator section.
> Instead I will add a option for the 2148.
> As always with Murphy law the data+/- pins are buried deep ;-), better
> now than later
>
> Thanks
> Joe > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > Let me know if you need anymore. I just checked our stock for 2138
> > and we have 400 in stock with 400 more coming. I can also send you two
> > samples if Arrow has problems getting more (free!).
> >
> > regards,
> > Charles
> >
> > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The 2129 requires 1.8V, and is in production.
> > > I have received 2 samples of the 2138 from Arrow and they are trying
> > > to get me 2 more.
> > >
> > > and my stock check at Arrow at 10:11am 4-13-05 shows
> > > "Philips LPC2132FBD64-S $7.49 Qty:1,914
> > > Philips LPC2138FBD64-S Call For Quote.1-877-237-8621"
> > >
> > > So the 2132 is in stock, the 2138 samples are available in limited
> > > quantity.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Order Online
> > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "charlesgrenz" <charles.grenz@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Joe,
> > > >
> > > > The 2138 does not have a 1.8V input. Only 3.3V is needed to
> run the
> > > > 2138.
> > > >
> > > > You can get samples and buy units from Arrow Electronics. They
> have
> > > > around 2K in stock.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Charles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bump
> > > > >
> > > > > My timing was a little off before ;-)
> > > > > I now have over half the layout done, and have jumper
options for
> > > > > the 2129/2138.
> > > > >
> > > > > I repeat my plea
> > > > >
> > > > > IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF AT LEAST POSTING A PRELIMINARY
> > > > > (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
> > > > > PIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Slide7.jpg in the file section is correct and the 214x with
> > USB is
> > > > > to be sampling in "H1 '05" you must have some idea of how the
> > pinout
> > > > > will be affected ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > It would also be nice to know when the LPC2138 will be
> available in
> > > > > production, the layout includes a 1.8V regulator and both
CAN and
> > > > > secondary I2C processor to processor communications hardware,
> > because
> > > > > I can not presently order 2138 from distribution.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe Bougher
> > > > > Bioanalytical Systems Inc.
> > > > > 2701 Kent Av.
> > > > > West Lafayette IN 47906
> > > > > (765) 463-4527
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In lpc2000@lpc2..., "Joe" <nospam1234@y...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Philips-Apps
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know Philips does not like to post information before the
> > product
> > > > > > is real.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However I have to do a PCB layout in the next week or 2 of a
> > > > > LPC2138
> > > > > > and would REALLY like to anticipate changing over to the
LPC2148
> > > > > when
> > > > > > it is available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any chance of at least posting a preliminary
> (subject to
> > > > > > change) pin difference between the LPC213x/LPC214x.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am currently using USBN9604 on the SPI port for USB, and
> it is
> > > > > slow
> > > > > > and inefficient.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe