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which C-compiler produces the smallest code size?

Started by rattencremesuppe September 14, 2004
Hi John, 

> Is the Ew430 your own compiler or is it a GCC ?

EW430 is IAR's compiler.  CrossWorks for MSP430 is our own compiler and
toolchain.

> The CrossWorks for ARM is GNU GCC.

It is.  I decided I didn't want to write an ARM code generator over
again because it's like writing two code generators (ARM and Thumb
mode).  I already wrote an ARM code generator for our Modula-2 compiler
in the 1989 timeframe, a long time before ARM became mainstream.

GCC does a much better job on ARM than on the MSP430.  There are other,
very good reasons for basing the ARM project on GCC, and it's not to
sell software...

> What will the CrossWorks for AVR be ....

The AVR compiler is based on our own toolset, no GNU software in the
equation at all.

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, and (soon) Atmel AVR processors 

Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

>>  What will the CrossWorks for AVR be ....

The AVR compiler is based on our own toolset, no GNU software in the
equation at all. <<

Any idea when it'll be available?

Code complete.  Documentation lacking.  We hope this month, but don't
bet the farm on it.

Regards,

-- Paul. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Wood [mailto:robert.wood@robe...] 
> Sent: 15 September 2004 22:49
> To: msp430@msp4...
> Subject: Re: [msp430] Re: which C-compiler produces the 
> smallest code size?
> 
> 
> >>  What will the CrossWorks for AVR be ....
> 
> The AVR compiler is based on our own toolset, no GNU software 
> in the equation at all. <<
> 
> Any idea when it'll be available?
> 
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Paul,

what is the price for Crossworks in US dollars, and do
you have a US distributor,I could get it from?



Thanks
Tony




	
		
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Hi Paul,


> Patrick,
> 
> As Arnie says, "I have extensive files..." 
> 

To be a nitpicker, the line actually is :
" I have detailed files ..."

(BTW, were you initially dissapointed with T3 as I was ?
That's what happens when you take James Cameron out of the
equation ! )

-- Kris


Hi Kris, 

> Hi Paul,
> 
> 
> > Patrick,
> > 
> > As Arnie says, "I have extensive files..." 
> > 
> 
> To be a nitpicker, the line actually is :
> " I have detailed files ..."

Well, I don't watch it that much.

> (BTW, were you initially dissapointed with T3 as I
was ?
> That's what happens when you take James Cameron out of the 
> equation ! )

I was disappointed with T3.  Not much of anything in it, it's just T2
warmed over with a girlie instead of a bloke and a bigger CGI budget.
The kids enjoyed it, it's the only Terminator film they've seen.

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, and (soon) Atmel AVR processors 

Hi Paul,

> Well, I don't watch it that much.

I recently had a Terminator craving so I treated myself
with viewing T1/T2 again, hence the recollection :-)

The only main flaw that bothered me is that Stan Winston claimed in an
interview that "all Terminators (model 101) look the same", hence why
Arnie re-appears in T2.
Yet in T1 when a Terminator infitrates the "underground shelter",
it's a different dude.
I guess Cameron didn't know yet in 1984 just how _huge_ his feverish
revelation from
Rome was going to be :-)
It certainly kickstarted his career and others (Gale Anne Hurd etc).

Big movie buffs here, can't you tell ? :-)

T3 seems to grow on me a bit, Jonathan Mostow is a good director,
but the whole thing seems to just screw about for too long at the start to
middle part of the story, maybe just the script...

> I was disappointed with T3.  Not much of anything
in it, it's just T2
> warmed over with a girlie instead of a bloke and a bigger CGI budget.
> The kids enjoyed it, it's the only Terminator film they've seen.

Maybe it's also because ILM's CGI in T2 was such a huge quantum leap
back then compared to T3, dunno.

-- Kris





Now I agree with you again! T3 was crap compared to the others

Al

microbit wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> 
> 
>>Patrick,
>>
>>As Arnie says, "I have extensive files..." 
>>
> 
> 
> To be a nitpicker, the line actually is :
> " I have detailed files ..."
> 
> (BTW, were you initially dissapointed with T3 as I was ?
> That's what happens when you take James Cameron out of the
> equation ! )
> 
> -- Kris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


Hi Al !

Indeed long time no hear...
I'm sincerely pleased we're on the same wavelength here, as in the
TRF post as well.

B rgds
Kris



> Now I agree with you again! T3 was crap compared
to the others
>
> Al
>
> microbit wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> >
> >
> >>Patrick,
> >>
> >>As Arnie says, "I have extensive files..."
> >>
> >
> >
> > To be a nitpicker, the line actually is :
> > " I have detailed files ..."
> >
> > (BTW, were you initially dissapointed with T3 as I was ?
> > That's what happens when you take James Cameron out of the
> > equation ! )
> >
> > -- Kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > .
>
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