EmbeddedRelated.com
Forums

DC-DC converter design

Started by Frederic Beaulieu December 10, 2004
Peter / Al,

You can find the info here:

http://www.electroniccomponents.globalsources.com/MAGAZINE/OVERVIEW.HTM

Regards,
KF

> My apologies Peter, but I had my subscription set
up for me. I haven't 
> got one lying around. A new one is due soon, but if you can give me a 
> business address I will try and organise one to be sent to you.
> 
> Al
> 
> Peter Homann wrote:
> 
> 
>>Al,
>>
>>Can you direct me to where I can subscribe to the magazine.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Peter.
>>
>>onestone wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On nearly all my designs I use a regulator of some kind, mainly to
get 
>>>the most out of a battery while retaining the same supply voltage 
>>>enabling high speed operation and flash writing. The MAX1724 has an 
>>>extremely low quiescent current at only 1.5uA, but is limited to
150mA. 
>>>IT takes input of 0.8 to 5.5V and comes in a range of fixed
voltages. 
>>>For high current I use the MAX1674. It's quiescent current is
16uA, but 
>>>it can output 1A from an input of 0.7V to Vout. It works with slight

>>>overvoltage.
>>>
>>>I get my batteries from Taiwan. 3.3Ah costs me US$7 in low volume
US$5 
>>>in 100 off. I get mine through a friend in Asia. The company is
called 
>>>HEcell. The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS
ASIA' is an 
>>>absolute gold mine for stuff like this.
>>>
>>>Al
>>>
>>>Frederic Beaulieu wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>From:	"onestone" <onestone@ones...>
>>>>>
>>>>>This is not a Li-poly or Li-ion. These output 3.6V
>>>>
>>>>and >are capable of 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>very high discharge currents at low temperatures. I
>>>>>regularly use these in systems drawing up to 1A.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Which one exactly do you use? Are they expensive?
>>>>How do you regularize it for a 3V output voltage? I
>>>>can see for 5V output (switcher) but I'm not sure for
>>>>3V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>170mA is very high for many >battery 
>>>>>technologies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Al

Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

onestone wrote:
> The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC
COMPONENTS ASIA' is an absolute
> gold mine for stuff like this.

You probably mean "Asian Sources Electronic Components" magazine. Been
getting it for 4 or 5 years now. Website of Asian Sources is:
http://www.asia.manufacturers.globalsources.com/gsol/HOMEPAGES/ASOL/HOME.jsp

They also have a online search there.

Indrek

-- 
  Indrek Rebane           |      Borthwick-Pignon
  Electronics Engineer    |    Tartu Science Park
  Phone: (+372) 7 302 641 | Riia 185, 51014 Tartu
  Fax:   (+372) 7 383 041 |               Estonia
  indrek@indr...        |         www.bps.co.ee


No, I was right, see KF Leongs reply. I had been getting the magazine 
for free for many years, but apparently it is now subscription only.

Al

Indrek Rebane wrote:

> onestone wrote:
> 
>>The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS ASIA' is an
absolute
>>gold mine for stuff like this.
> 
> 
> You probably mean "Asian Sources Electronic Components" magazine.
Been
> getting it for 4 or 5 years now. Website of Asian Sources is:
>
http://www.asia.manufacturers.globalsources.com/gsol/HOMEPAGES/ASOL/HOME.jsp
> 
> They also have a online search there.
> 
> Indrek
> 


Hi Al,

onestone wrote:
> No, I was right, see KF Leongs reply.

KF Leong and I are talking about _same_ magazine..

> I had been getting the magazine for free for many
years, but
> apparently it is now subscription only.

Same here, but I get it twice a year or so, they used to have some kind
of promotional offer. To get it on monthly basis one has to subscribe.

Never the less, I mostly use online version. Why? Easier to search --
find things faster.

Indrek

-- 
  Indrek Rebane           |      Borthwick-Pignon
  Electronics Engineer    |    Tartu Science Park
  Phone: (+372) 7 302 641 | Riia 185, 51014 Tartu
  Fax:   (+372) 7 383 041 |               Estonia
  indrek@indr...        |         www.bps.co.ee


Thank for the valuable info about battery!
However, I don't understand how you can obtain a
regulated 3V with an input voltage between 2.5V & 4.2V
(Li-Ion battery).
Thanks
Fred

--- onestone <onestone@ones...> wrote:

> 
> On nearly all my designs I use a regulator of some
> kind, mainly to get 
> the most out of a battery while retaining the same
> supply voltage 
> enabling high speed operation and flash writing. The
> MAX1724 has an 
> extremely low quiescent current at only 1.5uA, but
> is limited to 150mA. 
> IT takes input of 0.8 to 5.5V and comes in a range
> of fixed voltages. 
> For high current I use the MAX1674. It's quiescent
> current is 16uA, but 
> it can output 1A from an input of 0.7V to Vout. It
> works with slight 
> overvoltage.
> 
> I get my batteries from Taiwan. 3.3Ah costs me US$7
> in low volume US$5 
> in 100 off. I get mine through a friend in Asia. The
> company is called 
> HEcell. The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC
> COMPONENTS ASIA' is an 
> absolute gold mine for stuff like this.
> 
> Al
> 
> Frederic Beaulieu wrote:
> 
> >>From:	"onestone" <onestone@ones...>
> >>
> >>This is not a Li-poly or Li-ion. These output 3.6V
> > 
> > and >are capable of 
> > 
> >>very high discharge currents at low temperatures.
> I
> >>regularly use these in systems drawing up to 1A.
> > 
> > 
> > Which one exactly do you use? Are they expensive?
> > How do you regularize it for a 3V output voltage?
> I
> > can see for 5V output (switcher) but I'm not sure
> for
> > 3V.
> > 
> > 
> >>170mA is very high for many >battery 
> >>technologies.
> >>
> >>Al
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 		
> > __________________________________ 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> --------------------~--> 
> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion
> Toolbar.
> Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!
>
http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/CFFolB/TM
>
--------------------------------~->
> 
> 
> .
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>     msp430-unsubscribe@msp4...
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
__________________________________ 


OK, searched your link, but didn't see a magazine cover anywhere. I
have 
been getting it hard copy on a  regular basis. Actually I think I got 
the last one in September.

Al

Indrek Rebane wrote:

> Hi Al,
> 
> onestone wrote:
> 
>>No, I was right, see KF Leongs reply.
> 
> 
> KF Leong and I are talking about _same_ magazine..
> 
> 
>>I had been getting the magazine for free for many years, but
>>apparently it is now subscription only.
> 
> 
> Same here, but I get it twice a year or so, they used to have some kind
> of promotional offer. To get it on monthly basis one has to subscribe.
> 
> Never the less, I mostly use online version. Why? Easier to search --
> find things faster.
> 
> Indrek
> 


Hello Frederic,

> Thank for the valuable info about battery!
> However, I don't understand how you can obtain a
> regulated 3V with an input voltage between 2.5V & 4.2V
> (Li-Ion battery).

For example with a flyback converter that has a secondary winding. But
since input and output voltages are so close together the easier
method might be a SEPIC converter. The major difference between a
SEPIC and a boost converter is one more capacitor and one more
inductor. Then it can generate anything between zero and 'whatever',
or realistically several times the input voltage.

Usually a chip or architecture for boost conversion can easily be
changed to SEPIC. If you'd like to see a schematic look at National's
data sheet for the LM3478, towards the end of the data sheet.

Regards,

Joerg.




--- In msp430@msp4..., Frederic Beaulieu <Frb78@y...> wrote:
> However, I don't understand how you can
obtain a
> regulated 3V with an input voltage between 2.5V & 4.2V
> (Li-Ion battery).

Linear Technology has some very nice synchronous buck/boost 
converters, e.g. LTC3440.
http://www.linear.com/pc/viewCategory.do?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1042,C1116


> --- onestone <onestone@b...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On nearly all my designs I use a regulator of some
> > kind, mainly to get 
> > the most out of a battery while retaining the same
> > supply voltage 
> > enabling high speed operation and flash writing. The
> > MAX1724 has an 
> > extremely low quiescent current at only 1.5uA, but
> > is limited to 150mA. 
> > IT takes input of 0.8 to 5.5V and comes in a range
> > of fixed voltages. 
> > For high current I use the MAX1674. It's quiescent
> > current is 16uA, but 
> > it can output 1A from an input of 0.7V to Vout. It
> > works with slight 
> > overvoltage.
> > 
> > I get my batteries from Taiwan. 3.3Ah costs me US$7
> > in low volume US$5 
> > in 100 off. I get mine through a friend in Asia. The
> > company is called 
> > HEcell. The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC
> > COMPONENTS ASIA' is an 
> > absolute gold mine for stuff like this.
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > Frederic Beaulieu wrote:
> > 
> > >>From:	"onestone" <onestone@b...>
> > >>
> > >>This is not a Li-poly or Li-ion. These output 3.6V
> > > 
> > > and >are capable of 
> > > 
> > >>very high discharge currents at low temperatures.
> > I
> > >>regularly use these in systems drawing up to 1A.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which one exactly do you use? Are they expensive?
> > > How do you regularize it for a 3V output voltage?
> > I
> > > can see for 5V output (switcher) but I'm not sure
> > for
> > > 3V.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>170mA is very high for many >battery 
> > >>technologies.
> > >>
> > >>Al
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 		
> > > __________________________________ 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > --------------------~--> 
> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion
> > Toolbar.
> > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!
> >
> http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/CFFolB/TM
> >
> --------------------------------
~->
> > 
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >     msp430-unsubscribe@msp4...
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> __________________________________ 
> 




Sir
How to read ADC samples 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wolfgang Reich" <reich_wolfgang@reic...>
To: <msp430@msp4...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 06:19 PM
Subject: [msp430] Re: DC-DC converter design


> 
> 
> --- In msp430@msp4..., Frederic Beaulieu <Frb78@y...> wrote:
> > However, I don't understand how you can obtain a
> > regulated 3V with an input voltage between 2.5V & 4.2V
> > (Li-Ion battery).
> 
> Linear Technology has some very nice synchronous buck/boost 
> converters, e.g. LTC3440.
> http://www.linear.com/pc/viewCategory.do?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1042,C1116
> 
> 
> > --- onestone <onestone@b...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On nearly all my designs I use a regulator of some
> > > kind, mainly to get 
> > > the most out of a battery while retaining the same
> > > supply voltage 
> > > enabling high speed operation and flash writing. The
> > > MAX1724 has an 
> > > extremely low quiescent current at only 1.5uA, but
> > > is limited to 150mA. 
> > > IT takes input of 0.8 to 5.5V and comes in a range
> > > of fixed voltages. 
> > > For high current I use the MAX1674. It's quiescent
> > > current is 16uA, but 
> > > it can output 1A from an input of 0.7V to Vout. It
> > > works with slight 
> > > overvoltage.
> > > 
> > > I get my batteries from Taiwan. 3.3Ah costs me US$7
> > > in low volume US$5 
> > > in 100 off. I get mine through a friend in Asia. The
> > > company is called 
> > > HEcell. The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC
> > > COMPONENTS ASIA' is an 
> > > absolute gold mine for stuff like this.
> > > 
> > > Al
> > > 
> > > Frederic Beaulieu wrote:
> > > 
> > > >>From: "onestone" <onestone@b...>
> > > >>
> > > >>This is not a Li-poly or Li-ion. These output 3.6V
> > > > 
> > > > and >are capable of 
> > > > 
> > > >>very high discharge currents at low temperatures.
> > > I
> > > >>regularly use these in systems drawing up to 1A.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Which one exactly do you use? Are they expensive?
> > > > How do you regularize it for a 3V output voltage?
> > > I
> > > > can see for 5V output (switcher) but I'm not sure
> > > for
> > > > 3V.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >>170mA is very high for many >battery 
> > > >>technologies.
> > > >>
> > > >>Al
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > __________________________________ 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > .
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > > --------------------~--> 
> > > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion
> > > Toolbar.
> > > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!
> > >
> > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/CFFolB/TM
> > >
> > --------------------------------
> ~->
> > > 
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     msp430-unsubscribe@msp4...
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________ 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 

______________________________________
Scanned and protected by Email scanner




	I designed an equipment powered with 2.5V-4.8V using two 
LTC3440 (+5V- step-up and +3.3V- step-up/down). The power 
consumption in each one of them is around 100mA and the 
circuit works fine.


Paulo.



-----Mensagem original-----
De: Wolfgang Reich [mailto:reich_wolfgang@reic...] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 15 de dezembro de 2004 10:50
Para: msp430@msp4...
Assunto: [msp430] Re: DC-DC converter design



--- In msp430@msp4..., Frederic Beaulieu <Frb78@y...> wrote:
> However, I don't understand how you can
obtain a
> regulated 3V with an input voltage between 2.5V & 4.2V
> (Li-Ion battery).

Linear Technology has some very nice synchronous buck/boost 
converters, e.g. LTC3440.
http://www.linear.com/pc/viewCategory.do?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1042,C1116


> --- onestone <onestone@b...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On nearly all my designs I use a regulator of some
> > kind, mainly to get 
> > the most out of a battery while retaining the same
> > supply voltage 
> > enabling high speed operation and flash writing. The
> > MAX1724 has an 
> > extremely low quiescent current at only 1.5uA, but
> > is limited to 150mA. 
> > IT takes input of 0.8 to 5.5V and comes in a range
> > of fixed voltages. 
> > For high current I use the MAX1674. It's quiescent
> > current is 16uA, but 
> > it can output 1A from an input of 0.7V to Vout. It
> > works with slight 
> > overvoltage.
> > 
> > I get my batteries from Taiwan. 3.3Ah costs me US$7
> > in low volume US$5 
> > in 100 off. I get mine through a friend in Asia. The
> > company is called 
> > HEcell. The free trade magazine 'ELECTRONIC
> > COMPONENTS ASIA' is an 
> > absolute gold mine for stuff like this.
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > Frederic Beaulieu wrote:
> > 
> > >>From:	"onestone" <onestone@b...>
> > >>
> > >>This is not a Li-poly or Li-ion. These output 3.6V
> > > 
> > > and >are capable of 
> > > 
> > >>very high discharge currents at low temperatures.
> > I
> > >>regularly use these in systems drawing up to 1A.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which one exactly do you use? Are they expensive?
> > > How do you regularize it for a 3V output voltage?
> > I
> > > can see for 5V output (switcher) but I'm not sure
> > for
> > > 3V.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>170mA is very high for many >battery 
> > >>technologies.
> > >>
> > >>Al
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 		
> > > __________________________________ 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > --------------------~--> 
> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion
> > Toolbar.
> > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!
> >
> http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/CFFolB/TM
> >
> --------------------------------
~->
> > 
> > 
> > .
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >     msp430-unsubscribe@msp4...
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> __________________________________ 
> 






.

 
Yahoo! Groups Links



 




---
O e-mail recebido estlivre de vus. Delfos Tecnologia Eletrica
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.811 / Virus Database: 552 - Release Date: 13/12/2004
 

---
O e-mail enviado estlivre de vus. Delfos Tecnologia Eletrica
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.811 / Virus Database: 552 - Release Date: 13/12/2004