At 02:42 AM 5/14/2005, you wrote:

>Richard,
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> > I am not touching this thread with a 10 foot pole :-) but CCS
> > is the PIC
> > compiler company. CCE is the new TI "I want to build a
> > empire" MSP430 C
> > compiler.
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>Cowardice in the face of the enemy, Richard?  ;-)

Never read the Arts of War eh? :-)

>CCE has had a nice cosmetic makeover.  But only
cosmetic...

CCE is the last thing I worry about. Arguing with someone on the list is 
more troublesome :-)

>-- Paul.

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microbit wrote:

>Hi Al,
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>This is a moment to maybe have  bit of "Yumour".
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>>>(And as Kath said in "Kath and Kim" : "... Well, this
pro isn't giving you a quid.." :-)
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>>Talkign about kath and Kim, true story, yesterday we were shopping at 
>>Woolies in a local shopping centre, I went through the express lane, 
>>just having some grapes, after ringing up the goods the cashier asked 
>>"would you like in in a bag sir", before the brain had fully
engaged I 
>>replied "No, I'd prefer it in a tent!", she just looked
at me strangely.
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>Heh. I had a feeling in me waters.
>I recently bought Series 3 DVD of Kath and Kim , and it's got Prue and
Trude
>appearing on "The Panel" (missed out). Now I've got Series
1,2 & 3.
>So I heard on that Panel episode that "next year" (which is
sometime this year) 
>Kath & Kim will start in the UK. (BBC 2 bought it).
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I'm not actually a kath & kim fan. Odd moments are funny, but

>I have my funny moments too like :
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>-    When a storeclerk asks "how are you", sometimes I'll
reply - to their consternation -
>     " completely crap".
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My responses are usually either "beyond repair" or "beyond
redemption", 
when thye just greet you with "Hi!' I come back with "no, I
always look 
this dopey",

>      I always have a laugh and tell them it must
be a change for them to hear that,
>      and after all, they asked how I felt !!!
>
I find it usually gives people a laugh, in an often dull and boring day, 
why be normal, most greetings are rhetorical, and most responses are 
mundanely boring and dishonest.

>-    The teller at Westpac always asks me "How
would you like it ?" when I draw
>      petty cash. Sometimes I'll say "What did you have in mind
?", when I'm pretty chirpy.
>
I normally say "doubled", one day the teller actually gave did,
without 
thinking, I did point out her mistake though.

>      But the girls at the local bank know I'm
having them on anyway, most of them know 
>      me by face.
>
>Now I'll get back to my connubials.......
>
Ever tried them with custard?

Al

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Hi Richard, 

> >CCE has had a nice cosmetic makeover.  But
only cosmetic...
> 
> CCE is the last thing I worry about.

Me too.

> Arguing with someone on 
> the list is more troublesome :-)

But some people put themselves up as such simple targets!  :-)  All
quiet in the switch flame war recently, so I declare I've won the battle
and the war--there's been no immediate response from the opposing
forces.  Perhaps he's regrouping?  ;-)

-- Paul.

--- In msp430@msp4..., "Paul Curtis" <plc@r...> wrote:
> All quiet in the switch flame war recently, so I
declare I've won 
> the battle and the war--there's been no immediate response from the
> opposing forces.  Perhaps he's regrouping?  ;-)

Perhaps others are intimidated as I am after jumping into the thread.  
Being labeled "retarded" for questioning a point certainly gives one 
pause.

Lee

Lee, 

> --- In msp430@msp4..., "Paul Curtis"
<plc@r...> wrote:
> > All quiet in the switch flame war recently, so I declare 
> I've won the 
> > battle and the war--there's been no immediate response from the 
> > opposing forces.  Perhaps he's regrouping?  ;-)
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> Perhaps others are intimidated as I am after jumping into the 
> thread.  
> Being labeled "retarded" for questioning a point certainly 
> gives one pause.

Well, I never accused John of being retarded, only inaccurate.  I still
believe his "facts" to be completely inaccurate in a number of cases,
as
I have shown.  As Al says, this is a big world, and it's never
fair--life is what you make of it.

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd  http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors

Hi Paul, it was actually Kris who called Lee retarded, but then again to 
retard is to cause to move slowly, or to impede. All other negative 
meanings have ultimately derived from this definition. perhaps the 
implication is only negative if you choose to feel that way. Personally 
I believe there is value in slowing down to think, perhaps then I might 
be able to control my mouth in public. Of course I'm biased. I can't 
run, I walk VERY slowly, I move with  the speed of a striking slug, and 
have no coordination to boot..

Always one to take the contrary opinion,

Al the retarded neo-Luddite

Paul Curtis wrote:

>Lee, 
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>>--- In msp430@msp4..., "Paul Curtis" <plc@r...> wrote:
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>>>All quiet in the switch flame war recently, so I declare 
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>>I've won the 
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>>>battle and the war--there's been no immediate response from the

>>>opposing forces.  Perhaps he's regrouping?  ;-)
>>>      
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>>Perhaps others are intimidated as I am after jumping into the 
>>thread.  
>>Being labeled "retarded" for questioning a point certainly 
>>gives one pause.
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>Well, I never accused John of being retarded, only inaccurate.  I still
>believe his "facts" to be completely inaccurate in a number of
cases, as
>I have shown.  As Al says, this is a big world, and it's never
>fair--life is what you make of it.
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>CrossWorks for MSP430, ARM, AVR and (soon) MAXQ processors
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Hi Richard,

> >Cowardice in the face of the enemy, Richard? 
;-)
> 
> Never read the Arts of War eh? :-)

You're on the right track :
"If inferior, irritate him" ... :-) :-)
That'll turn into guerilla warfare, for the enemy will make mistakes.
And don't forget "Unagi" :-)

Cheers,
Kris

Hi Al,

> >      I always have a laugh and tell them it
must be a change for them to hear that,
> >      and after all, they asked how I felt !!!
> >
> I find it usually gives people a laugh, in an often dull and boring day, 
> why be normal, most greetings are rhetorical, and most responses are 
> mundanely boring and dishonest.

Right on the money my man.
The most irritating though I find "How do you do" ?
How do you do what ?

> >-    The teller at Westpac always asks me
"How would you like it ?" when I draw
> >      petty cash. Sometimes I'll say "What did you have in
mind ?", when I'm pretty chirpy.
> >
> I normally say "doubled", one day the teller actually gave did,
without 
> thinking, I did point out her mistake though.

Once I said "on top", and the teller was embarrassed.....

> >Now I'll get back to my connubials.......
> Ever tried them with custard?

Nope, never.
But I heard rhubarb is in now. And I'm still wanting to be effluent....
While still on K&K, the paper said that the Poms greeted Kath & Kim very
well.
Apparently 2.5 Million tuned in to BBC2.

Kath :       " Do you have something for your Orrefors ?"
Trude :    " Yes, I have 2 flutes in my Orrefors "
Prue  :     " Do you want something in your Bodum ??"
Kath :      " I beg yours ... ??!! ".
Kim (to Kath) : " Mum, do you want a .... trew .... for your .... carch ...
(wonders) ... " ?

I read that one UK reviewer said that it puts the Poms off from emigrating to
Oz, but 1/2 hour a
week with Kath & Kim is delicious.....

-- Kris

Hoi,

> But some people put themselves up as such simple
targets!  :-)  All
> quiet in the switch flame war recently, so I declare I've won the
battle
> and the war--there's been no immediate response from the opposing
> forces.  Perhaps he's regrouping?  ;-)
>
> -- Paul.

I'm still waiting to see the result on CCE of the switch timing and code I
proposed
to compare to the one produced by CW430.

-- Kris

Hi Paul, Lee,

> > Perhaps others are intimidated as I am after
jumping into the 
> > thread.  
> > Being labeled "retarded" for questioning a point certainly 
> > gives one pause.
> 
> Well, I never accused John of being retarded, only inaccurate.  I still
> believe his "facts" to be completely inaccurate in a number of
cases, as
> I have shown.  

There were other "facts" that were inaccurate, as I pointed out (and I
can
substantiate it anytime).
Even that can be viewed as "opinion-prone", but it's not. (even
vis-a-vis the CCE compiler)

As far as Lee is concerned, if you went through the trouble of attempting to
ridicule 
me on a pointless and hollow subject, and in a futile manner, don't expect
pleasantries 
from me.
In all the years I've been on this group, this would have to count for just
about the 
only time I've reacted so strong, and I feel it warranted.
The rest is up to you.

-- Kris