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MSP430 C Compiler-Debugger Performance

Started by Cem OZDERE /Empa November 8, 2003
Hi all,

There are so many C compilers around and I am looking for the cheapest and most
effective product . Is there anyone who has a chart or something like that shows
the performance and prices of these compilers ?
 Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very helpful .

Best Regards
CEM





Beginning Microcontrollers with the MSP430

Hi all,

There are so many C compilers around and I am looking for the cheapest and most
effective product . Is there anyone who has a chart or something like that shows
the performance and prices of these compilers ?
 Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very helpful .

Best Regards
CEM




>  Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very 
helpful .

The problem with free compilers (at least in MSP430-land) is that 
they're worth every penny.  There aren't many choices for MSP430 C 
compilers.

JJS



	If you think GCC is worthless, you're sadly misinformed.  GCC works
well, and 
we've shipped 5 products based on it (moderate complexity, not just blink
the 
LED).

	I've not used the ImageCraft MSP430 compiler, but I do use them for my AVR

products.  They're quite good, and Richard provides excellent support.  If
I 
weren't using GCC already, I'd have no hesitation using ICC.

	Don't know about any of the others ones out there.

	--John

On Wednesday 12 November 2003 13:49 pm, John Speth
wrote:
>  > Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very
>
>  helpful .
>
>  The problem with free compilers (at least in MSP430-land) is that
>  they're worth every penny. There aren't many choices for MSP430
C
>  compilers.
>
>  JJS


> >  Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very
> helpful .
> 
> The problem with free compilers (at least in MSP430-land) is that 
> they're worth every penny.  There aren't many choices for MSP430
C 
> compilers.

I happen to think the MSP430 is pretty well endowed with good compilers.
IMO, MSP430 is in a better position with quality compilers than AVR, but
that's my next move.

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430 and ARM processors 

Hi Paul.
 
Though I really enjoy your compiler I must tell you that Codevision AVR written
by Pavel is a REALLY good compiler for the AVR. Just so that you don't
think it's a compleatly new market. Pavel support is terrific and so is his
compiler, so don't underestimate it. 
If you wan't to take some of the AVR compilermarket you should try to get
JTAG debuging going (like you have on the MSP430) since ATMELs avrstudio seems
dead in the water(no new verisons the last 1,5 year or so).

Good luck
Jimmy Pedersen

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Curtis 
  To: msp430@msp4... 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:19 PM
  Subject: RE: [msp430] Re: MSP430 C Compiler-Debugger Performance


  > >  Also some internet adresses of free C compilers would be very
  > helpful .
  > 
  > The problem with free compilers (at least in MSP430-land) is that 
  > they're worth every penny.  There aren't many choices for
MSP430 C 
  > compilers.

  I happen to think the MSP430 is pretty well endowed with good compilers.
  IMO, MSP430 is in a better position with quality compilers than AVR, but
  that's my next move.

  --
  Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
  CrossWorks for MSP430 and ARM processors 

        
             
       
       

  .



   





Hi Jimmy,

> Though I really enjoy your compiler I must tell
you that 
> Codevision AVR written by Pavel is a REALLY good compiler for 
> the AVR. Just so that you don't think it's a compleatly new 
> market. Pavel support is terrific and so is his compiler, so 
> don't underestimate it. 
> If you wan't to take some of the AVR compilermarket you 
> should try to get JTAG debuging going (like you have on the 
> MSP430) since ATMELs avrstudio seems dead in the water(no new 
> verisons the last 1,5 year or so).

One of the things I do before undertaking a compiler project is to
assess the competition, especially code generation.  Although
CodeVisionAVR is good, our object code format and latest linker
technology (which I'm completing for the MSP) will make our system very
competetive on AVR.  I already have the JTAG ICE, and C code is running
in AVR Studio.  I don't think AVR Studio is particularly inspiring as a
development environment, but it has excellent device emulation.  We'll
also be providing a USB to JTAG emulator/ISP for the AVR just like we've
done for the MSP.  IAR have a good compiler for AVR, but we think we can
offer a nice IDE with a good compiler at a reasonable price.

But this is an MSP430 conference... ;-)

--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
CrossWorks for MSP430 and ARM processors 


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