Best PIC family for C programming

> John, what compiler is that, and where can we find it?
>
> In past searches of the Microchip site, I must have missed it. Perhaps
> I saw it, but didn't realize that there is no charge for it.

C18 for 16F's (8bit) (student edition)
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010014

for PIC24 and dsPIC (student edition)
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010065

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Wouter beat me to it.

There is a difference between the 16 bit and 32 bit "Student Edition'. The
16 bit student edition has some optimizations that expire after 90 days. As
best I can tell, these optimizations don't make a huge difference for most
apps. I have heard some people indicate that in their particular space the
optimizations make a huge difference, but I've never encountered such an
app.

The 32 bit compiler has a code size limitation for the student edition.
Since you are tempted to do much more involved applications on the larger
PICs, this looks to me to be a show stopper, especially since the paid
version of the compiler is really expensive.

If money isn't a huge issue, I would suggest picking up the Explorer 16
board to experiment. It comes with a very fat 24F and 33F, has the typical
peripherals you find on an experimenter's board, and has a plug in connector
for perfboards with all the PIC pins brought to the connector. Microchip's
perfboards ar 3/$21, which I consider to be pretty reasonable, and are very
nice high quality boards with clear markings for all the PIC signals etc.
The Explorer 16 is like $160 or so, tho, so a little pricey for a hobbyist.
It has connectors for both the ICD2 and the PICkit2. It also has an 18F on
board for USB http://wb8rcr.multiply.com/photos/album/7/

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>> John, what compiler is that, and where can we find it?
>>
>> In past searches of the Microchip site, I must have missed it. Perhaps
>> I saw it, but didn't realize that there is no charge for it.
>
> C18 for 16F's (8bit) (student edition)
> http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010014
>
> for PIC24 and dsPIC (student edition)
> http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010065
>
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Actually C18 is for the 18F parts. MC doesn't have a C compiler for 16F
parts.

have fun,
DLC

Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
>> John, what compiler is that, and where can we find it?
>>
>> In past searches of the Microchip site, I must have missed it. Perhaps
>> I saw it, but didn't realize that there is no charge for it.
>
> C18 for 16F's (8bit) (student edition)
> http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010014
>
> for PIC24 and dsPIC (student edition)
> http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId06&dDocName=en010065
>

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> Actually C18 is for the 18F parts. MC doesn't have a C compiler for 16F
> parts.

Sorry, Typo. For 14-bit cores I use the free HiTech C. Generates
horrible code, but who cares?

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> Sorry, Typo. For 14-bit cores I use the free HiTech C. Generates
> horrible code, but who cares?

Have you noticed how the various 14 bit compilers each generate horrible
code for some things, and really creative code for others. Seems like each
compiler is different. None seems to do everything well or poorly.

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Hello guys...

I'm kinda new to the PIC world , and I'm designing an autopilot for an RC
model. I'm planning on using PICs. Do you have any suggestions on which
family to pick? All I learned was with the 16F family and assembler. Now
I'm upgrading to the 18F and C. I was thinking on using the 18F family on
the autopilot. Do you think this could handle or should I get a more
advanted family?

Thanks for the attention....
Rodrigo Basniak


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--- In p..., Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
>
> > What would you recommend as a sensible PIC family for programming
in C?
>
> Can not be answered without more details. If you want to use the full
> power of C (especially recursion) 12 and 14 bit cores are definitely
> out, probably 16-bit cores too. OTOH, for small projects a 10F200 might
> be the prefect choice.
>
> --
>
> Wouter van Ooijen

Here I thought I was missing something about the 10F series so I
grabbed the datasheet. Clearly, the 10F200 isn't going to use C with
only 256 words of flash and 16 bytes of SRAM.

The PIC18 series work pretty well with C and projects that do things
like USB and ethernet. I did a little project with one of the 18F
chips to interface a PS2 game controller to a PC by having SPI on one
side and USB on the other. It worked very well and the Microchip C18
compiler is quite good (in that it works).

But you have to take this C thing in context. You can't use a PIC to
solve world hunger or predict weather patterns. But if you just want
to write code for the hardware gadgets and control things connected to
the pins, C will work on most of the 16F series.

I have been using cc5x for years on 16F parts including my favorite,
the 16F88. Sure, the language is a subset and I can't put function
pointers in arrays and, true, it doesn't handle expressions very well,
but it works.

I have also used PIC C Lite and I could be convinced it is a better
compiler. I just reach for cc5x more often. Go with what you know, I
guess.

Richard





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Are you doing an autopilot (basically quite simple) or an
autonavigation (much moe complex). For the former almost any of the PICs
will do, although if you really must write in C then the 18 family is
better than the samller parts. If you're going autonav and are
insisitent on C then I'd personally favour one of the dsPICs or 24H
series dependng upon the peripheral mix you use for positional data. If
your using just GPS any old micro will do justr about. If you're using a
basic INS ie 5-6sensors then a 24H might do. If you're looking for a
really precise system then I would implem,ent multiple methods of
determning each type of axial data and then run all of these combination
s throuhg a variety of filters, which would take a dsPIC in C.

Cheers

Al

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>Hello guys...
>
>I'm kinda new to the PIC world , and I'm designing an autopilot for an RC
>model. I'm planning on using PICs. Do you have any suggestions on which
>family to pick? All I learned was with the 16F family and assembler. Now
>I'm upgrading to the 18F and C. I was thinking on using the 18F family on
>the autopilot. Do you think this could handle or should I get a more
>advanted family?
>
>Thanks for the attention....
>Rodrigo Basniak
>
>
> "rtstofer"
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> Enviado Por: p...
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> com
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> 19/09/2008 12:07 for C programming
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>
>
>
>
> --- In p..., Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
> >
> > > What would you recommend as a sensible PIC family for programming
> in C?
> >
> > Can not be answered without more details. If you want to use the full
> > power of C (especially recursion) 12 and 14 bit cores are definitely
> > out, probably 16-bit cores too. OTOH, for small projects a 10F200 might
> > be the prefect choice.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Wouter van Ooijen
>
> Here I thought I was missing something about the 10F series so I
> grabbed the datasheet. Clearly, the 10F200 isn't going to use C with
> only 256 words of flash and 16 bytes of SRAM.
>
> The PIC18 series work pretty well with C and projects that do things
> like USB and ethernet. I did a little project with one of the 18F
> chips to interface a PS2 game controller to a PC by having SPI on one
> side and USB on the other. It worked very well and the Microchip C18
> compiler is quite good (in that it works).
>
> But you have to take this C thing in context. You can't use a PIC to
> solve world hunger or predict weather patterns. But if you just want
> to write code for the hardware gadgets and control things connected to
> the pins, C will work on most of the 16F series.
>
> I have been using cc5x for years on 16F parts including my favorite,
> the 16F88. Sure, the language is a subset and I can't put function
> pointers in arrays and, true, it doesn't handle expressions very well,
> but it works.
>
> I have also used PIC C Lite and I could be convinced it is a better
> compiler. I just reach for cc5x more often. Go with what you know, I
> guess.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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Hello,

PIC for autopilot. While taking about AHRS or gyro+accelerometer
based system i would also recomend you to go for DSPIC. If you go
for the one i have worked on like .. seprate Hight hold module with
gps and pressure sensor, A gps tracker plus angular rate based gyro
for turn control or horizon sensor based wing leveler. I had used
18F452. It was ok with these pics and they gave me good results in
CCS-C programming.

regards
Dani
--- In p..., Onestone wrote:
>
> Are you doing an autopilot (basically quite simple) or an
> autonavigation (much moe complex). For the former almost any of
the PICs
> will do, although if you really must write in C then the 18 family
is
> better than the samller parts. If you're going autonav and are
> insisitent on C then I'd personally favour one of the dsPICs or
24H
> series dependng upon the peripheral mix you use for positional
data. If
> your using just GPS any old micro will do justr about. If you're
using a
> basic INS ie 5-6sensors then a 24H might do. If you're looking
for a
> really precise system then I would implem,ent multiple methods of
> determning each type of axial data and then run all of these
combination
> s throuhg a variety of filters, which would take a dsPIC in C.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
>
> rodrigobasniak.plena@... wrote:
>
> >Hello guys...
> >
> >I'm kinda new to the PIC world , and I'm designing an autopilot
for an RC
> >model. I'm planning on using PICs. Do you have any suggestions on
which
> >family to pick? All I learned was with the 16F family and
assembler. Now
> >I'm upgrading to the 18F and C. I was thinking on using the 18F
family on
> >the autopilot. Do you think this could handle or should I get a
more
> >advanted family?
> >
> >Thanks for the attention....
> >Rodrigo Basniak
> >
> >
> >
>
>

>
> "rtstofer"

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programming
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>

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>

> > --- In p..., Wouter van Ooijen
wrote:
> >
>

> > > > What would you recommend as a sensible PIC family for
programming
> > in
C?

> >
>

> > > Can not be answered without more details. If you want to use
the full
> > > power of C (especially recursion) 12 and 14 bit cores are
definitely
> > > out, probably 16-bit cores too. OTOH, for small projects a
10F200 might
> > > be the prefect
choice.
> >
>

> > > --


> >
>

> > > Wouter van
Ooijen

>
>

> > Here I thought I was missing something about the 10F series so
I
> > grabbed the datasheet. Clearly, the 10F200 isn't going to use C
with
> > only 256 words of flash and 16 bytes of
SRAM.
>
>

> > The PIC18 series work pretty well with C and projects that do
things
> > like USB and ethernet. I did a little project with one of the
18F
> > chips to interface a PS2 game controller to a PC by having SPI
on one
> > side and USB on the other. It worked very well and the Microchip
C18
> > compiler is quite good (in that it
works).
>
>

> > But you have to take this C thing in context. You can't use a
PIC to
> > solve world hunger or predict weather patterns. But if you just
want
> > to write code for the hardware gadgets and control things
connected to
> > the pins, C will work on most of the 16F
series.
>
>

> > I have been using cc5x for years on 16F parts including my
favorite,
> > the 16F88. Sure, the language is a subset and I can't put
function
> > pointers in arrays and, true, it doesn't handle expressions very
well,
> > but it
works.

>
>

> > I have also used PIC C Lite and I could be convinced it is a
better
> > compiler. I just reach for cc5x more often. Go with what you
know, I
> >
guess.

>
>

> >
Richard

>
>

>
>

>
>

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Al,

I only saw your answer on the history of Dani's mail right now... =(
Yahoogroups trick me this time =\

I'm planning on doing an full autonavigatin system, with 6 degrees of
freedom. It will have a GPS, 3-axis accelerometer, 2 2-axis gyros, and
3-axis magnetometer.

The system doesn't have to be that much precise, its purposes is for
learning only, nothing commercial, so precision will not be a big issue.
But I'm planning on using kalman filter at least.

What would be the basic main difference from dsPIC and 24H?

Regards,
Rodrigo Basniak

Rodrigo Basniak
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Hello,

PIC for autopilot. While taking about AHRS or gyro+accelerometer
based system i would also recomend you to go for DSPIC. If you go
for the one i have worked on like .. seprate Hight hold module with
gps and pressure sensor, A gps tracker plus angular rate based gyro
for turn control or horizon sensor based wing leveler. I had used
18F452. It was ok with these pics and they gave me good results in
CCS-C programming.

regards
Dani

--- In p..., Onestone wrote:
>
> Are you doing an autopilot (basically quite simple) or an
> autonavigation (much moe complex). For the former almost any of
the PICs
> will do, although if you really must write in C then the 18 family
is
> better than the samller parts. If you're going autonav and are
> insisitent on C then I'd personally favour one of the dsPICs or
24H
> series dependng upon the peripheral mix you use for positional
data. If
> your using just GPS any old micro will do justr about. If you're
using a
> basic INS ie 5-6sensors then a 24H might do. If you're looking
for a
> really precise system then I would implem,ent multiple methods of
> determning each type of axial data and then run all of these
combination
> s throuhg a variety of filters, which would take a dsPIC in C.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
>
> rodrigobasniak.plena@... wrote:
>
> >Hello guys...
> >
> >I'm kinda new to the PIC world , and I'm designing an autopilot
for an RC
> >model. I'm planning on using PICs. Do you have any suggestions on
which
> >family to pick? All I learned was with the 16F family and
assembler. Now
> >I'm upgrading to the 18F and C. I was thinking on using the 18F
family on
> >the autopilot. Do you think this could handle or should I get a
more
> >advanted family?
> >
> >Thanks for the attention....
> >Rodrigo Basniak
> >
> >
> >
>
>

>
> "rtstofer"

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>

>
>

>
>

>
>

> > --- In p..., Wouter van Ooijen
wrote:
> >
>

> > > > What would you recommend as a sensible PIC family for
programming
> > in
C?

> >
>

> > > Can not be answered without more details. If you want to use
the full
> > > power of C (especially recursion) 12 and 14 bit cores are
definitely
> > > out, probably 16-bit cores too. OTOH, for small projects a
10F200 might
> > > be the prefect
choice.
> >
>

> > > --


> >
>

> > > Wouter van
Ooijen

>
>

> > Here I thought I was missing something about the 10F series so
I
> > grabbed the datasheet. Clearly, the 10F200 isn't going to use C
with
> > only 256 words of flash and 16 bytes of
SRAM.
>
>

> > The PIC18 series work pretty well with C and projects that do
things
> > like USB and ethernet. I did a little project with one of the
18F
> > chips to interface a PS2 game controller to a PC by having SPI
on one
> > side and USB on the other. It worked very well and the Microchip
C18
> > compiler is quite good (in that it
works).
>
>

> > But you have to take this C thing in context. You can't use a
PIC to
> > solve world hunger or predict weather patterns. But if you just
want
> > to write code for the hardware gadgets and control things
connected to
> > the pins, C will work on most of the 16F
series.
>
>

> > I have been using cc5x for years on 16F parts including my
favorite,
> > the 16F88. Sure, the language is a subset and I can't put
function
> > pointers in arrays and, true, it doesn't handle expressions very
well,
> > but it
works.

>
>

> > I have also used PIC C Lite and I could be convinced it is a
better
> > compiler. I just reach for cc5x more often. Go with what you
know, I
> >
guess.

>
>

> >
Richard

>
>

>
>

>
>

> >
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks Dani, second answer on dsPIC's side. I guess I'll just stop learning
the 18F and start learning the ds family.

Mine major concerning is about memory for the program, since I never did
anything that complex with PICs I don't have idea of how much memory should
I be looking for on the PICs. I'm writing some algorithms in Labview to
control a plane on X-Plane and test various approachs for the system. As
soon as I decide wich logic I'll be following I'll start writing to the
PIC, maybe by then I can have an idea of how much memory I'll be needing.

If I was using 18F family I was thinking on a PIC for the main program, 1
for filtering, processing and logging the sensor data and a 3rd one to
interpret and log gps data. Those 2 would transmit to the main PIC wich
would make the decisions. Any thoughts?

Regards,
Rodrigo Basniak


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Hello,

PIC for autopilot. While taking about AHRS or gyro+accelerometer
based system i would also recomend you to go for DSPIC. If you go
for the one i have worked on like .. seprate Hight hold module with
gps and pressure sensor, A gps tracker plus angular rate based gyro
for turn control or horizon sensor based wing leveler. I had used
18F452. It was ok with these pics and they gave me good results in
CCS-C programming.

regards
Dani

--- In p..., Onestone wrote:
>
> Are you doing an autopilot (basically quite simple) or an
> autonavigation (much moe complex). For the former almost any of
the PICs
> will do, although if you really must write in C then the 18 family
is
> better than the samller parts. If you're going autonav and are
> insisitent on C then I'd personally favour one of the dsPICs or
24H
> series dependng upon the peripheral mix you use for positional
data. If
> your using just GPS any old micro will do justr about. If you're
using a
> basic INS ie 5-6sensors then a 24H might do. If you're looking
for a
> really precise system then I would implem,ent multiple methods of
> determning each type of axial data and then run all of these
combination
> s throuhg a variety of filters, which would take a dsPIC in C.
>
> Cheers
>
> Al
>
> rodrigobasniak.plena@... wrote:
>
> >Hello guys...
> >
> >I'm kinda new to the PIC world , and I'm designing an autopilot
for an RC
> >model. I'm planning on using PICs. Do you have any suggestions on
which
> >family to pick? All I learned was with the 16F family and
assembler. Now
> >I'm upgrading to the 18F and C. I was thinking on using the 18F
family on
> >the autopilot. Do you think this could handle or should I get a
more
> >advanted family?
> >
> >Thanks for the attention....
> >Rodrigo Basniak
> >
> >
> >
>
>

>
> "rtstofer"

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>
Assunto
> > [piclist] Re: Best PIC
family
> > 19/09/2008 12:07 for C
programming
>
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> >
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>

> > --- In p..., Wouter van Ooijen
wrote:
> >
>

> > > > What would you recommend as a sensible PIC family for
programming
> > in
C?

> >
>

> > > Can not be answered without more details. If you want to use
the full
> > > power of C (especially recursion) 12 and 14 bit cores are
definitely
> > > out, probably 16-bit cores too. OTOH, for small projects a
10F200 might
> > > be the prefect
choice.
> >
>

> > > --


> >
>

> > > Wouter van
Ooijen

>
>

> > Here I thought I was missing something about the 10F series so
I
> > grabbed the datasheet. Clearly, the 10F200 isn't going to use C
with
> > only 256 words of flash and 16 bytes of
SRAM.
>
>

> > The PIC18 series work pretty well with C and projects that do
things
> > like USB and ethernet. I did a little project with one of the
18F
> > chips to interface a PS2 game controller to a PC by having SPI
on one
> > side and USB on the other. It worked very well and the Microchip
C18
> > compiler is quite good (in that it
works).
>
>

> > But you have to take this C thing in context. You can't use a
PIC to
> > solve world hunger or predict weather patterns. But if you just
want
> > to write code for the hardware gadgets and control things
connected to
> > the pins, C will work on most of the 16F
series.
>
>

> > I have been using cc5x for years on 16F parts including my
favorite,
> > the 16F88. Sure, the language is a subset and I can't put
function
> > pointers in arrays and, true, it doesn't handle expressions very
well,
> > but it
works.

>
>

> > I have also used PIC C Lite and I could be convinced it is a
better
> > compiler. I just reach for cc5x more often. Go with what you
know, I
> >
guess.

>
>

> >
Richard

>
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