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Started by randy ram May 6, 2004


Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.

I currently use PicBasic Pro.

Thanks


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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:57:03 +1000
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Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.

I currently use PicBasic Pro.

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I use speed control for fan motors all the time.
 
You have two choices: 
1:  Analog - convert PIC PWM to dc voltage with RC network.  Use op-amps and P-channel FET to convert
    0-5V level to 0-12V level (or whatever your motor requires).  Simple, easy to understand, but wastes a lot
    of power as heat.  Useful only for small motors.
2:  Pure digital - Use PWM output directly to drive FET driver (and power P-channel FET).  Filter the output with an    L-C  network.  Can handle larger motors.  Very efficient.
 
I have used both methods, and control the "high  side" rather than than the "low side" so that the motor tachometer
can be ground-referenced.
 
You have to pick which one works best for you, but I can give examples of either.
 
Charles Linquist
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
Subject: [piclist] Electronics speed control


Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.

I currently use PicBasic Pro.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: cdb
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:57:03 +1000
To:
Subject: Re: [piclist] share any schematics or projects using a Pic 16C765?

This months Elektor magazine has a 2 channel ADC to USB circuit.

The code can be downloaded from their website www.elektor-electronics.co.uk   free downloads and then this months issue.

Colin
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Thanks for the reply Charles. This E.speed control will be connected to a radio control receiver. So, I am assuming that I will have to go through the digitally.

As the receiver gets the signal to vary the speed, the motor should correspond directly. Either speed up or slow down. I understand I can just buy it for a 20 buck of the hobby stores, but I guess I just want to go though the hassle of how it actually works.

What actually happens when the the PIC receives a signal through the RX?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Linquist"
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:26:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: [piclist] Electronics speed control

I use speed control for fan motors all the time.
 
You have two choices: 
1:  Analog - convert PIC PWM to dc voltage with RC network.  Use op-amps and P-channel FET to convert
    0-5V level to 0-12V level (or whatever your motor requires).  Simple, easy to understand, but wastes a lot
    of power as heat.  Useful only for small motors.
2:  Pure digital - Use PWM output directly to drive FET driver (and power P-channel FET).  Filter the output with an    L-C  network.  Can handle larger motors.  Very efficient.
 
I have used both methods, and control the "high  side" rather than than the "low side" so that the motor tachometer
can be ground-referenced.
 
You have to pick which one works best for you, but I can give examples of either.
 
Charles Linquist
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: randy ram
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
Subject: [piclist] Electronics speed control


Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.

I currently use PicBasic Pro.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: cdb
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:57:03 +1000
To:
Subject: Re: [piclist] share any schematics or projects using a Pic 16C765?

This months Elektor magazine has a 2 channel ADC to USB circuit.

The code can be downloaded from their website www.elektor-electronics.co.uk   free downloads and then this months issue.

Colin
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Could you give a PicBasicPro example of the pure digital?  Also the filter output L-C network?
 
Ever had success using either reverse emf or magnetic-inductive to determine the speed of the motor?
 
Thanks
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [piclist] Electronics speed control

I use speed control for fan motors all the time.
 
You have two choices: 
1:  Analog - convert PIC PWM to dc voltage with RC network.  Use op-amps and P-channel FET to convert
    0-5V level to 0-12V level (or whatever your motor requires).  Simple, easy to understand, but wastes a lot
    of power as heat.  Useful only for small motors.
2:  Pure digital - Use PWM output directly to drive FET driver (and power P-channel FET).  Filter the output with an    L-C  network.  Can handle larger motors.  Very efficient.
 
I have used both methods, and control the "high  side" rather than than the "low side" so that the motor tachometer
can be ground-referenced.
 
You have to pick which one works best for you, but I can give examples of either.
 
Charles Linquist
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: randy ram
To: p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:04 AM
Subject: [piclist] Electronics speed control


Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.

I currently use PicBasic Pro.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: cdb
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:57:03 +1000
To:
Subject: Re: [piclist] share any schematics or projects using a Pic 16C765?

This months Elektor magazine has a 2 channel ADC to USB circuit.

The code can be downloaded from their website www.elektor-electronics.co.uk   free downloads and then this months issue.

Colin
--
cdb, b...@optusnet.com.au on 01.11.2003

I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows.

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----- Original Message -----
From: randy ram
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: [piclist] Electronics speed control
Has anyone worked on a speed control before. I want to drive a small dc
motor. The same as the radio control electric motors.
I currently use PicBasic Pro.

I've used PWM successfully for this sort of thing - it was quite easy. I
used an AVR rather than a PIC, though. I was driving an optical chopper
disk, and got the speed feedback from that and used it to stabilise the
speed (I needed 50 Hz).

Leon
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