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What's Intel up to?

Started by Non scrivetemi June 5, 2009
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html

What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.

Anyone willing to make a guess?

"Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in message 
news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info...
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html > > What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks > will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so > that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are > switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move. > > Anyone willing to make a guess?
I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point. -- Regards, Richard. + http://www.FreeRTOS.org Designed for Microcontrollers. More than 7000 downloads per month. + http://www.SafeRTOS.com Certified by T&#2013265948;V as meeting the requirements for safety related systems.
FreeRTOS.org wrote:
> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in message > news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info... >> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html >> >> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWorks >> will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so >> that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are >> switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move. >> >> Anyone willing to make a guess? > > I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point.
Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs. However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support, and libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of software support then one can prioritize support for one's new hardware over competitor's new hardware. Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity.
On Jun 6, 5:45=A0am, "Non scrivetemi"
<nonscrivet...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html > > What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on vxWork=
s will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the business, so = that's not really an option. And since most embedded system OEM's are switc= hing towards ARM I don't see the logic behind this move.
> > Anyone willing to make a guess?
Easy. They get a customer list, and a handle on new developments, and can tailor new ATOM (etc) variants to hit any significant market sweet spots. Plus, intel can more easily morph into mutliple cores etc, so they can tailor the SW to better match the cores they do offer. fanless embedded is an area intel has essentially been away from for some years. -jg
On 2009-06-05, David Kelly <n4hhe@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point. > > Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs.
Not really. They sold off most of the strongARM/XScale product lines. All that's left are whats remaining of the old iXP4xx products aimed at network products -- and those are pretty much orphaned as far as I can tell.
> However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market > then Intel needs to make sure there are development systems, > run time support, and libraries for Intel products. If one > owns a successful source of software support then one can > prioritize support for one's new hardware over competitor's > new hardware. > > Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM > activity.
I doubt it. Intel hasn't introduced any new ARM-based product families in a decade. The iXP4xx stuff is so well hidden at the Intel web site that you can't find it unless you know ahead of time what you're looking for. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... the HIGHWAY is at made out of LIME JELLO and visi.com my HONDA is a barbequeued OYSTER! Yum!
David Kelly wrote:
> FreeRTOS.org wrote: >> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in >> message >> news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info... >>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html >>> >>> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on >>> vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the >>> business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded >>> system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind >>> this move. Anyone willing to make a guess? >> >> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point. > > Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs. > > However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel > needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support, > and libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of > software support then one can prioritize support for one's new > hardware over competitor's new hardware. > > Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity.
It's all about the Atom, handsets and other very high volume appliances. I wouldn't be surprized to see Intel/WRS abandon all non-X86 activity. Intel sells silicon not software. -- Scott Validated Software Lafayette, CO
Not Really Me wrote:
> David Kelly wrote: >> FreeRTOS.org wrote: >>> "Non scrivetemi" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in >>> message >>> news:c7db507176a8ce1b01bdf749a740ef66@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info... >>>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6188471898.html >>>> >>>> What is Intel up to buying Wind River Systems? Saying 'from now on >>>> vxWorks will only run on Intel x86 processors' will simply kill the >>>> business, so that's not really an option. And since most embedded >>>> system OEM's are switching towards ARM I don't see the logic behind >>>> this move. Anyone willing to make a guess? >>> I think "OEMs are switching towards ARM" may be the point. >> Why? Intel makes ARM CPUs. >> >> However, if Intel wishes to make inroads in the ARM market then Intel >> needs to make sure there are development systems, run time support, >> and libraries for Intel products. If one owns a successful source of >> software support then one can prioritize support for one's new >> hardware over competitor's new hardware. >> >> Purchase of Wind River might indicate *more* Intel ARM activity. > > It's all about the Atom, handsets and other very high volume appliances. I > wouldn't be surprized to see Intel/WRS abandon all non-X86 activity. Intel > sells silicon not software.
Isn't the Atom X86?
"Rumpy" <rumpy@abc.biz> wrote in message news:h1f65s$o0s$1@aioe.org...
> > Isn't the Atom X86?
Wasn't "Atom" a very early Acorn product?
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:45:56 +0100, Alun wrote:

>> Isn't the Atom X86? > > Wasn't "Atom" a very early Acorn product?
Yep; that was my first computer. 1MHz 6502, 12K ROM, 12K RAM (24 x 2114s; you could piggyback an extra pair to get 13K). 4 "colours" (black, white, 2 identical shades of grey; actual colour cost extra). The successor was originally going to be called the Proton, but it ended up as the BBC Micro. A cut-down version (sans Teletext chip) was sold as the Electron.