Terms in automotive electronics

Hello World,
      I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a
scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find
the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-)
      While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
Greetings,
Konki

Konki schrieb:

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>       While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
> electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
> different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
> I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
> full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
> a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
> must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
> terminology in the automotive electronics industry.

I know the standard DIN 72552-2 (German Standard), unfortunately I don't
know the number of the international one.

Konki,
the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list

and the  "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order#
351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9
pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.

regards
/jan


Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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> Hello World,
>       I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a
> scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find
> the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-)
>       While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
> electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
> different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
> I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
> full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
> a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
> must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
> terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
> Greetings,
> Konki

Generally they refer to anything supplied directly from the battery (
permanently live ) as S30, and anything supplied off the ignition switch as
S15 supplied.

are  Kl15 & Kl30 just different names for these???



"Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message
news:2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Konki,
> the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list
>
> and the  "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order#
> 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9
> pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.
>
> regards
> /jan
>
>
> Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> e8e5d61e.0405060155.5f6c78b6@posting.google.com...
> > Hello World,
> >       I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a
> > scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find
> > the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-)
> >       While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
> > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
> > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
> > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
> > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
> > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
> > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
> > terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
> > Greetings,
> > Konki
>
>

Dave,
yes indeed.
Kl is the abbreviation for 'klemme' which is the german term for connector /
connection.

regards
/jan
David Powell <davidpowell@nospam.sympatico.ca> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
MGAmc.6944$qP2.15049@news.indigo.ie...
> Generally they refer to anything supplied directly from the battery (
> permanently live ) as S30, and anything supplied off the ignition switch
as
> S15 supplied.
>
> are  Kl15 & Kl30 just different names for these???
>
>
>
> "Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message
> news:2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Konki,
> > the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list
> >
> > and the  "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag
Order#
> > 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9
> > pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.
> >
> > regards
> > /jan
> >
> >
> > Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> > e8e5d61e.0405060155.5f6c78b6@posting.google.com...
> > > Hello World,
> > >       I am trying to make a device to measure the fuel level in a
> > > scooter. It is fitted with a fuel level sensor and I think I can find
> > > the details. This is not the issue, just the background. :-)
> > >       While I was searching for some information regarding automotive
> > > electronics for this project, I came across many articles where the
> > > different cables/signals in automobiles are labelled as Kl15 Kl30 etc.
> > > I now know the meaning of many of these. However, I want to know the
> > > full list of the signals/cables. I searched the web and couldn't find
> > > a reference. Does anybody know which standard defines these names? It
> > > must be defined in some standards as it is apparently widely used
> > > terminology in the automotive electronics industry.
> > > Greetings,
> > > Konki
> >
> >
>
>

"Jan Homuth" <jandothomuth@altium.com> wrote in message news:<2fv4kjF2kmdgU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Konki,
> the BOSCH "Kraftfahrtechnisches Handbuch" contains the complete list
> 
> and the  "Tabellenbuch Kraftfahrtechnik" Holland & Josenhans Verlag Order#
> 351 ISBN 3-7782-3510-9
> pg. 184 ff also lists the signal numbers.

Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of
these? I searched the Bosch web site for the firs one and
Springer-Verlag for the second one. No luck. Both sites have no idea
about these. But, I found the second one listed at some German sites
for sale. But, my German is not good enough. :-(

Also, The DIN standard mentioned by Anastasios Tsitlakidis is
avaialble only in German. :-(

Doesn't the SAE or ISO have anything similar?

Greetings,
Konki

In article <e8e5d61e.0405070335.2556f863@posting.google.com>,
Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> wrote:

> Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of
> these? I searched the Bosch web site for the firs one and
> Springer-Verlag for the second one. No luck.

Is the information on this page enough?

  < http://www.type2.com/library/identifi/bosterm.htm >

  | From Bosch Automotive Handbook, 3rd edition
  | 
  |  Terminal Designations  (Excerpts from DIN Standard 72 552)
  |  The terminal designations ...

-- 
G&#4294967295;ran Larsson     http://www.mitt-eget.com/

hoh@invalid.invalid (Goran Larsson) wrote in message news:<HxG32D.G23@approve.se>...
> In article <e8e5d61e.0405070335.2556f863@posting.google.com>,
> Konki <nntpuser@konki.net> wrote:
> > Tanks a lot. Any idea if (and where) I can get an English version of
> > these?
>
> Is the information on this page enough?
>   < http://www.type2.com/library/identifi/bosterm.htm >

Yes. Thank you very much. This will do as a reference. In the mean
time, I will try to get a copy of the other publications.

Have a nice day,
Konki