8051 development board in India

Hello,

I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
compiler and other free assemblers.

I have been following up previous posts in this group but so far not
been successful enough in finding a satisfactory answer to my quest.


I live in India hence an Indian vendor would be preferrable. More
specifically I live in Pune, which is a city near Bombay so that I can
always get my board from Bombay in case I can find a vendor there.

Other suggestions regarding foreign based companied would also be
helpful.

Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions and assistance.

Wishing you Happy embedding!
regards,
Seemanta Dutta

On 19 Jan 2004 02:19:32 -0800, seemanta_18@yahoo.com (seemanta dutta)
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
>of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
>to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
>endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
>well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
>that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
>For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
>compiler and other free assemblers.

In my opinion the best way to start is to take a flash programmable
8051 controller like the atmel ones - either the simple "S"-family
like 89S52 or the more complex "X2" ones - and build your ISP-cable.
Should be done in half an hour.
There is also a free C-compiler out there: sdcc. Take a look at
http://sdcc.sourceforge.net .
A very thourogh source of information is the forum on
http://www.8052.com . Take a look.

In article <bngn00pp8vsloph9ttj7jtglt4dpbhveil@4ax.com>, Jochen Giese
<Jochen.G@hotmail.com> writes
>On 19 Jan 2004 02:19:32 -0800, seemanta_18@yahoo.com (seemanta dutta)
>wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
>>of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
>>to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
>>endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
>>well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
>>that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
>>For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
>>compiler and other free assemblers.
>
>In my opinion the best way to start is to take a flash programmable
>8051 controller like the atmel ones
Or Philips or any other flash 51.

>There is also a free C-compiler out there: sdcc. Take a look at
>http://sdcc.sourceforge.net .
This has been discussed before. It's not very good. 

>A very thourogh source of information is the forum on
>http://www.8052.com . Take a look.
Also http://Quest.phaedsys.org 

Or you could start off with professional tools....
try http://www.keil.com

They have an MCB900 board which is a flash programmable 8051 with flash
programming software and a real compiler (Keil) 
Regards



/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England    /\/\/\/\/\
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org       www.phaedsys.org \/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

seemanta_18@yahoo.com (seemanta dutta) wrote in message news:<fd383985.0401190219.37ee2d54@posting.google.com>...
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
> of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
> to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
> endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
> well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
> that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
> For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
> compiler and other free assemblers.
> 
> I have been following up previous posts in this group but so far not
> been successful enough in finding a satisfactory answer to my quest.
> 
> 
> I live in India hence an Indian vendor would be preferrable. More
> specifically I live in Pune, which is a city near Bombay so that I can
> always get my board from Bombay in case I can find a vendor there.
> 
> Other suggestions regarding foreign based companied would also be
> helpful.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any of your suggestions and assistance.
> 
> Wishing you Happy embedding!
> regards,
> Seemanta Dutta

In Pune, you can try SPJ Systems [http://www.spjsystems.com/].
They sell 8051 C compiler too.

--- Milind

<snip>
> In Pune, you can try SPJ Systems [http://www.spjsystems.com/].
> They sell 8051 C compiler too.
> 
> --- Milind
Thanks everybody for all your help and advice.
Also thanks Milind for the URL of spjsystems. I shall definitely try it out.

regards,
Seemanta Dutta

<snip>

> In my opinion the best way to start is to take a flash programmable
> 8051 controller like the atmel ones - either the simple "S"-family
> like 89S52 or the more complex "X2" ones - and build your ISP-cable.
> Should be done in half an hour.
><snip>

I looked up atmel website and found some stuff. But please clear one
doubt for me. Even if I build my own ISP cable ( I also searched the
net for it too..) won't I need specialised software for programming
the chip ulness of course I decide to write my own programmer.

thanks in advance,

regards,
Seemanta Dutta

In article <fd383985.0401210128.14d01632@posting.google.com>, seemanta
dutta <seemanta_18@yahoo.com> writes
><snip>
>
>> In my opinion the best way to start is to take a flash programmable
>> 8051 controller like the atmel ones - either the simple "S"-family
>> like 89S52 or the more complex "X2" ones - and build your ISP-cable.
>> Should be done in half an hour.
>><snip>
>
>I looked up atmel website and found some stuff. But please clear one
>doubt for me. Even if I build my own ISP cable ( I also searched the
>net for it too..) won't I need specialised software for programming
>the chip ulness of course I decide to write my own programmer.
>
>thanks in advance,
>
>regards,
>Seemanta Dutta

get an MCB900 kit from Keil... complete board all the Flash programming
SW and a decent compiler.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England    /\/\/\/\/\
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org       www.phaedsys.org \/\/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

> I looked up atmel website and found some stuff. But please clear one
> doubt for me. Even if I build my own ISP cable ( I also searched the
> net for it too..) won't I need specialised software for programming

There is free software readily available. For example, I did some
projects using the 89S53 and I used a simple STK300-compatible ISP
dongle with PonyProg. A schematic for the dongle is available on
PonyProg's website.

"seemanta dutta" <seemanta_18@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fd383985.0401190219.37ee2d54@posting.google.com...
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
> of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
> to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
> endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
> well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
> that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
> For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
> compiler and other free assemblers.
>


You can develop code for the Atmel AT89S51 on the STK500 AVR development
board.
This is about $79 and should (hopefully) be available in India as well.
Why the 8051 and not the AVR.
You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free.

-- 
Best Regards
Ulf at atmel dot com
These comments are intended to be my own opinion and they
may, or may not be shared by my employer, Atmel Sweden.

Ulf Samuelsson wrote:

> "seemanta dutta" <seemanta_18@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fd383985.0401190219.37ee2d54@posting.google.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family
>> of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board
>> to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded
>> endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as
>> well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel
>> that is the best way to learn about embedded systems.
>> For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation
>> compiler and other free assemblers.
>>
> 
> 
> You can develop code for the Atmel AT89S51 on the STK500 AVR development
> board.
> This is about $79 and should (hopefully) be available in India as well.
> Why the 8051 and not the AVR.
> You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free.
> 

Which GNU compiler would that be?

Ian