"Ian Bell" <ian@ruffrecordsDOTworldonline.co.uk> wrote in message news:4010283c_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...> Ulf Samuelsson wrote: > > > "seemanta dutta" <seemanta_18@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:fd383985.0401190219.37ee2d54@posting.google.com... > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family > >> of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board > >> to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded > >> endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as > >> well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel > >> that is the best way to learn about embedded systems. > >> For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation > >> compiler and other free assemblers. > >> > > > > > > You can develop code for the Atmel AT89S51 on the STK500 AVR development > > board. > > This is about $79 and should (hopefully) be available in India as well. > > Why the 8051 and not the AVR. > > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. > > > > Which GNU compiler would that be? > > IanThe line should read: "You can get all the AVR S/W including GNU compiler for free". to be perfectly clear... Sorry! -- Best Regards Ulf at atmel dot com These comments are intended to be my own opinion and they may, or may not be shared by my employer, Atmel Sweden.
8051 development board in India
Started by ●January 19, 2004
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
> > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. > > Which GNU compiler would that be?SDCC would be my guess ;)
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
Ulf Samuelsson wrote:> > "Ian Bell" <ian@ruffrecordsDOTworldonline.co.uk> wrote in message > news:4010283c_3@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com... >> Ulf Samuelsson wrote: >> >> > "seemanta dutta" <seemanta_18@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> > news:fd383985.0401190219.37ee2d54@posting.google.com... >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I am looking for a devlopment board specifically for the 8051 family >> >> of microcontrollers. My budget is approximately $70. I want the board >> >> to help me write small/medium programs, just to start off my embedded >> >> endeavours. But of course I want it to be helpful in the long run as >> >> well. My actual ambition to create my own embedded OS because I feel >> >> that is the best way to learn about embedded systems. >> >> For the time being I shall be content with the 2K keil evaluation >> >> compiler and other free assemblers. >> >> >> > >> > >> > You can develop code for the Atmel AT89S51 on the STK500 AVR >> > development board. >> > This is about $79 and should (hopefully) be available in India as well. >> > Why the 8051 and not the AVR. >> > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. >> > >> >> Which GNU compiler would that be? >> >> Ian > > The line should read: > "You can get all the AVR S/W including GNU compiler for free". > to be perfectly clear... Sorry! >Are you telling me gcc can compile for the AVR? Ian
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:>> > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. >> >> Which GNU compiler would that be? > > SDCC would be my guess ;)Well *the* GNU compiler is gcc and AFAIK that does not support the AVR. Any other compiler is not GNU. Ian
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
On 2004-01-23, Ian Bell <ian@ruffrecordsDOTworldonline.co.uk> wrote:> Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote: > >>> > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. >>> >>> Which GNU compiler would that be?Gcc. Is there another?>> SDCC would be my guess ;) > > Well *the* GNU compiler is gcc and AFAIK that does not support the AVR.Sure it does. It has for quite a while: http://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.html#avr -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! BEEP-BEEP!! I'm a at '49 STUDEBAKER!! visi.com
Reply by ●January 23, 20042004-01-23
> Well *the* GNU compiler is gcc and AFAIK that does not support the AVR. AnyNever heard of avrgcc? :))) BTW, when I said sdcc, I had a couple of wires crossed, I thought Ulf was talking about 8051 code development.
Reply by ●January 24, 20042004-01-24
Grant Edwards wrote:> On 2004-01-23, Ian Bell <ian@ruffrecordsDOTworldonline.co.uk> wrote: >> Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote: >> >>>> > You can get all the S/W including GNU compiler for free. >>>> >>>> Which GNU compiler would that be? > > Gcc. > > Is there another? > >>> SDCC would be my guess ;) >> >> Well *the* GNU compiler is gcc and AFAIK that does not support the AVR. > > Sure it does. It has for quite a while: > > http://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.html#avr >Cool. I happily stand corrected. Ian
Reply by ●January 24, 20042004-01-24
In article <608b6569.0401231900.64589a54@posting.google.com>, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards <larwe@larwe.com> writes>> Well *the* GNU compiler is gcc and AFAIK that does not support the AVR. Any > >Never heard of avrgcc? :))) > >BTW, when I said sdcc, I had a couple of wires crossed, I thought Ulf >was talking about 8051 code development.if he was then the sdcc will not be much use to him. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Reply by ●January 24, 20042004-01-24
>>BTW, when I said sdcc, I had a couple of wires crossed, I thought Ulf >>was talking about 8051 code development. > > > if he was then the sdcc will not be much use to him.Oh? Why would that be? "SDCC is a Freeware, retargettable, optimizing ANSI - C compiler. The current version targets the Intel 8051, Maxim 80DS390 and the Zilog Z80 based MCUs."
Reply by ●January 25, 20042004-01-25
In article <Y3AQb.22747$q4.19182@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, Lewin A.R.W. Edwards <larwe@larwe.com> writes>>>BTW, when I said sdcc, I had a couple of wires crossed, I thought Ulf >>>was talking about 8051 code development. >> >> >> if he was then the sdcc will not be much use to him. > >Oh? Why would that be? "SDCC is a Freeware,Irrelevant. (besides most serious engineers can't afford free tools.)>retargettable,(inefficient)>optimizingoptimising? Not compared to any of the commercial compilers. In fact it has a very LOW code density and virtually the worst data density..>ANSI - C compiler.And you can justify that statement? Remind me, which test suites has it passed? I doubt very much if it is remotely complies to the C standard. Besides if it is fully ISO-C compatible if will need a lot of extensios for the 51.>The current version targets the Intel 8051,Very few use that these days There are over 550 51 types out there using many different cores>Maxim >80DS390Knowing how difficult it was for the commercial compiler vendors to support it with the support of Dallas I am very surprised that it can. This memory models. I know it is that far different that KEil for example use a different linker for it to their standard linker.>and the Zilog Z80 based MCUs."that explains why it is so inefficient. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
