On log or in log?

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:41:14 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> On 12/04/2020 20:59, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> > 
> > Hmmm, perhaps sign languages have their spelling peculiarities as well,
> > you never know.
> 
> They do.  

Can you give an example?  I don't know of any spelling from sign language other than the spell of words that aren't in the language.  ASL user spell English words they don't have signs for or proper names.  What "peculiarities" are there in this? 

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On 13/04/2020 18:58, Rick C wrote:
> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:41:14 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
>> On 12/04/2020 20:59, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, perhaps sign languages have their spelling peculiarities as
>>> well, you never know.
>> 
>> They do.
> 
> Can you give an example?  I don't know of any spelling from sign
> language other than the spell of words that aren't in the language.
> ASL user spell English words they don't have signs for or proper
> names.  What "peculiarities" are there in this?
> 

As I understand it (without knowing any sign languages myself, other 
than having learned a sign language spelling alphabet as a kid) it is 
common to take short-cuts in spellings.  Some names or other words have 
to be spelt, but if you can get away with partial spellings, 
abbreviations, combinations with other words, you do - spelling letter 
by letter is slow and tedious.  In some sign languages, where a named 
person is known to the people talking, descriptive signs are used. 
There is a lot of variation between different sign languages.

I don't know if "spelling peculiarity" would be a good term for that, 
however.

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> On 13/04/2020 18:58, Rick C wrote:
> > On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:41:14 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> >> On 12/04/2020 20:59, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hmmm, perhaps sign languages have their spelling peculiarities as
> >>> well, you never know.
> >> 
> >> They do.
> > 
> > Can you give an example?  I don't know of any spelling from sign
> > language other than the spell of words that aren't in the language.
> > ASL user spell English words they don't have signs for or proper
> > names.  What "peculiarities" are there in this?
> > 
> 
> As I understand it (without knowing any sign languages myself, other 
> than having learned a sign language spelling alphabet as a kid) it is 
> common to take short-cuts in spellings.  Some names or other words have 
> to be spelt, but if you can get away with partial spellings, 
> abbreviations, combinations with other words, you do - spelling letter 
> by letter is slow and tedious.  In some sign languages, where a named 
> person is known to the people talking, descriptive signs are used. 
> There is a lot of variation between different sign languages.
> 
> I don't know if "spelling peculiarity" would be a good term for that, 
> however.

It's not.  The abbreviations you talk about are not spelling, they are name signs.  Rather than spell out names in frequent use they invent a sign for that name.  Most towns and cities have signs for their name known to people familiar with those towns and cities.  Likewise other proper names like companies, etc. 

Spelling in sign language is not really slow or tedious.  That's why I can't read signed spelling, they are far too fast with it, much like my Morse code. 

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Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:

> I should have asked "is something in the log or is it on the log".
> Say, like something is "on the menu".

In log. And the log is on disk :)

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