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Started by Don Gravos September 13, 2005
Don Gravos wrote:
> I am looking for small embedded ARM board with ethernet+USB+multiple > RS232+general purpose parallel I/O lines+multiple channel ADC+realtime clock > and capable of running Linux. (Am I sking too much?) > Do you know ARM board with these specs? > >
Not strictly ARM, but take a look at http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2614444132.html
Robert Lacoste wrote:
> "larwe" <larwe@larwe.com> a =E9crit dans le message de news: > 1126788745.094238.322920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > CM-X255 or CM-X270W from Compulab, starting around $50 ? Cf > >> > www.compulab.co.il > >> > > >> > >> Do they run Linux? > > > > Yes, but that $50 is a bogus price, it's a few thousand dollars to get > > set up and the $50 is only for a mini module that requires a baseboard > > to get any actual functionality. > > A little correction : they are effectively starting arount $50 in volume > orders (1K), see their prices on their web site. These kind of modules are > COM, meaninf effectively that they are designed to be fitted, like a > component, on your application PCB. So yes a baseboard is needed, but it > could be either a standard one (PC104 or ATX, around $30-$40), or your own > application PCB.
($50+$40) x 1000 =3D $90,000. That should be enough to build any custom board you want. We can even throw in 10,000 spare PCBs.
>=20 > Friendly, > Robert
"Sergio Masci" <sergio@NOSPAM.xcprod.com> wrote in message 
news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0509151601450.29603@yoda.srts.co.uk...
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Alex Gibson wrote: >
>> >> Etrax from Axis http://developer.axis.com >> More recent chips can run a default 2.6 linux kernel >> >> The ETRAX 100LX Multi Chip Module includes the ETRAX 100LX SoC plus 4 MB >> Flash, 16 MB SDRAM, Ethernet Transceiver, etc. This chip is ideal for >> Ethernet-connected Linux systems. >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/index.html >> >> a.. 4 asynchronous serial ports >> a.. 2 synchronous serial ports >> a.. 2 USB ports Host 1.1 >> a.. 2 Parallel ports >> a.. 4 ATA (IDE) ports >> a.. 2 Narrow SCSI ports (or 1 Wide) >> >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/index.html >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/18354_etrax_lx.pdf >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm >> >> http://www.acmesystems.it/ A nice small board , and its 5V tolerant >> >> Alex >> > > I had a look at axis a little while back but I couldn't find any info on > the MIPS rating. Also I found that the 10/100 Ethernet is slugged to a max > 2 (or 2.5) MB/s. Somthing to do with the USB interface. > > > Regards > Sergio Masci
Which etrax chip ? There is a whole range since 1993 http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/etrax_history.html The 100LXsupports 100Mbs full duplex They are used by Axis in their surveillance cameras one of their boxes has an etrax 100LX + TI DM642 + camera chip. Also if the ethernet wasn't up to scratch , why would the chip get used in routers , network cameras , nas boxes etc ? http://www.amsstorage.com/html/dakotarom-sp_specifications.html http://www.canon.com.au/products/multimedia/webview_webcasting_solutions/vbc10_ptz%20camera.html http://www.linuxdevices.com/products/PD3724998087.html http://www.elphel.com/model313/index.html http://www.elphel.com/3fhlo/index.html Alex Elphel do seem to use broadcom ethernet on their cameras


On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Alex Gibson wrote:

> > "Sergio Masci" <sergio@NOSPAM.xcprod.com> wrote in message > news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0509151601450.29603@yoda.srts.co.uk... > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Alex Gibson wrote: > > > > >> > >> Etrax from Axis http://developer.axis.com > >> More recent chips can run a default 2.6 linux kernel > >> > >> The ETRAX 100LX Multi Chip Module includes the ETRAX 100LX SoC plus 4 MB > >> Flash, 16 MB SDRAM, Ethernet Transceiver, etc. This chip is ideal for > >> Ethernet-connected Linux systems. > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm > >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/index.html > >> > >> a.. 4 asynchronous serial ports > >> a.. 2 synchronous serial ports > >> a.. 2 USB ports Host 1.1 > >> a.. 2 Parallel ports > >> a.. 4 ATA (IDE) ports > >> a.. 2 Narrow SCSI ports (or 1 Wide) > >> > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/index.html > >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/18354_etrax_lx.pdf > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm > >> > >> http://www.acmesystems.it/ A nice small board , and its 5V tolerant > >> > >> Alex > >> > > > > I had a look at axis a little while back but I couldn't find any info on > > the MIPS rating. Also I found that the 10/100 Ethernet is slugged to a max > > 2 (or 2.5) MB/s. Somthing to do with the USB interface. > > > > > > Regards > > Sergio Masci > > Which etrax chip ?
I didn't make a note at the time and now that I've gone back to check, the docs look different so I cannot say with any certainty. It was the one used on the Axis product. Previously I saw no mention of seperate ethernet connections now I see that there is mention of a primary and secondary connection one going through an internal USB port and limited to 12MBit/s. Quote "Actual routing speed is ~XX MBit between the two interfaces"
> > There is a whole range since 1993 > http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/etrax_history.html > > The 100LXsupports 100Mbs full duplex > > They are used by Axis in their surveillance cameras > one of their boxes has an etrax 100LX + TI DM642 + camera chip. > > > Also if the ethernet wasn't up to scratch , why would the chip get used in > routers , network cameras , nas boxes etc ?
You tell me. Why do some NIC's perform MUCH better than others even though they are all spec'd at 100MB? Just because the hardware can pump out a packet at 100MBit doesn't meen it can sustain 100MBit throughput continuously.
> > http://www.amsstorage.com/html/dakotarom-sp_specifications.html > http://www.canon.com.au/products/multimedia/webview_webcasting_solutions/vbc10_ptz%20camera.html > http://www.linuxdevices.com/products/PD3724998087.html > http://www.elphel.com/model313/index.html > http://www.elphel.com/3fhlo/index.html > > Alex > Elphel do seem to use broadcom ethernet on their cameras
I must admit that when I first looked at the Axis docs I did not like what I saw and I felt it was possibly overhyped overpriced hardware jumping on the Linux bandwagon. I felt it was safer for me to alert people to a potential problem and for these same people to then check for themselves BEFORE buying the kit, than for them to buy the kit and find out AFTER the event that there was a problem. Anyway thanks to your posting I will give this Linux on a chip thing much more scrutiny before dismissing it again :-) Regards Sergio Masci http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB - optimising PIC compiler FREE for personal non-commercial use .
Try this:

http://www.logicpd.com/eps/som/sharp/LH79524/

There is a free 2.6.x linux port as well.  goto
http://www.sharpmcu.com. You can sign up for their freely available
software library and it should be in there.

-Z

Sergio Masci wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Alex Gibson wrote: > > > > > "Sergio Masci" <sergio@NOSPAM.xcprod.com> wrote in message > > news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0509151601450.29603@yoda.srts.co.uk... > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Alex Gibson wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > >> Etrax from Axis http://developer.axis.com > > >> More recent chips can run a default 2.6 linux kernel > > >> > > >> The ETRAX 100LX Multi Chip Module includes the ETRAX 100LX SoC plus 4 MB > > >> Flash, 16 MB SDRAM, Ethernet Transceiver, etc. This chip is ideal for > > >> Ethernet-connected Linux systems. > > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm > > >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/index.html > > >> > > >> a.. 4 asynchronous serial ports > > >> a.. 2 synchronous serial ports > > >> a.. 2 USB ports Host 1.1 > > >> a.. 2 Parallel ports > > >> a.. 4 ATA (IDE) ports > > >> a.. 2 Narrow SCSI ports (or 1 Wide) > > >> > > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/index.html > > >> http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/18354_etrax_lx.pdf > > >> http://developer.axis.com/doc/hardware/mcm/4+16/MCM_datasheet.htm > > >> > > >> http://www.acmesystems.it/ A nice small board , and its 5V tolerant > > >> > > >> Alex > > >> > > > > > > I had a look at axis a little while back but I couldn't find any info on > > > the MIPS rating. Also I found that the 10/100 Ethernet is slugged to a max > > > 2 (or 2.5) MB/s. Somthing to do with the USB interface. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Sergio Masci > > > > Which etrax chip ? > > I didn't make a note at the time and now that I've gone back to check, the > docs look different so I cannot say with any certainty. It was > the one used on the Axis product. > > Previously I saw no mention of seperate ethernet connections now I see > that there is mention of a primary and secondary connection one going > through an internal USB port and limited to 12MBit/s. Quote "Actual > routing speed is ~XX MBit between the two interfaces" > > > > > There is a whole range since 1993 > > http://developer.axis.com/products/etrax100lx/etrax_history.html > > > > The 100LXsupports 100Mbs full duplex > > > > They are used by Axis in their surveillance cameras > > one of their boxes has an etrax 100LX + TI DM642 + camera chip. > > > > > > Also if the ethernet wasn't up to scratch , why would the chip get used in > > routers , network cameras , nas boxes etc ? > > You tell me. Why do some NIC's perform MUCH better than others even though > they are all spec'd at 100MB? > > Just because the hardware can pump out a packet at 100MBit doesn't meen it > can sustain 100MBit throughput continuously. > > > > > http://www.amsstorage.com/html/dakotarom-sp_specifications.html > > http://www.canon.com.au/products/multimedia/webview_webcasting_solutions/vbc10_ptz%20camera.html > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/products/PD3724998087.html > > http://www.elphel.com/model313/index.html > > http://www.elphel.com/3fhlo/index.html > > > > Alex > > Elphel do seem to use broadcom ethernet on their cameras > > I must admit that when I first looked at the Axis docs I did not like what > I saw and I felt it was possibly overhyped overpriced hardware jumping on > the Linux bandwagon. I felt it was safer for me to alert people to a > potential problem and for these same people to then check for themselves > BEFORE buying the kit, than for them to buy the kit and find out AFTER the > event that there was a problem. > > Anyway thanks to your posting I will give this Linux on a chip thing much > more scrutiny before dismissing it again :-) > > Regards > Sergio Masci > > http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XCSB - optimising PIC compiler > FREE for personal non-commercial use > > > > .
Oh ya...this is based on the LH79524 with a 77MHz ARM720T with ENET
MAC, USB, ADC, RTC, GPIO, etc.  There is a LCDC but if you don't need
it, it's nearly free and leaves you with extra GPIO.  There is a 16-bit
data-bus version as well that may be easier to handle cause its a QFP
rather than BGA.  The QFP version is the LH79525.

www.embeddedarm.com looks good too.


"A. P. Richelieu" wrote:

> www.cogcomp.com : CSB637 > www.mechatronicbrick.dk could do the job with the right motherboard. > > Both have Ethernet, USB Host + Client, 2 UARTs (chips got 4) > SPI, I2C , GPIO, RTC. No ADC on the mech'brick AFAIK. > > -- > A. P. Richelieu > > "Don Gravos" <aaaa> skrev i meddelandet > news:4326f0ab$0$22099$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > >I am looking for small embedded ARM board with ethernet+USB+multiple > >RS232+general purpose parallel I/O lines+multiple channel ADC+realtime > >clock and capable of running Linux. (Am I sking too much?) > > Do you know ARM board with these specs? > >
Check out the ARM boards from Embest at

http://www.armkits.com/Product/productmain.asp

Hope this helps.

-- Dennis

Don Gravos wrote:
> I am looking for small embedded ARM board with ethernet+USB+multiple > RS232+general purpose parallel I/O lines+multiple channel ADC+realtime clock > and capable of running Linux. (Am I sking too much?) > Do you know ARM board with these specs?