Sal P. wrote:> Mike Harrison wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Donald Harris" <harrisdw1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >"larwe" <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:1168056271.111695.144970@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > >> > > >> Sal P. wrote: > > >> > > >>> feasibility of a digital camera which can last for about 3 weeks with > > >>> out being recharged (they approached a few camera companies and were > > > > This might be worth a serious look : > > http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2420/.f?sc=8&category=241 > > Essentially a digital camera in module form that you can get control over with a microcontroller. > > You should be able to control this more ieasily than a ready made camera as it has a documented > > interface. > > > > > > > > >> By the way: > > >> > > >> <http://www.nativeoutdoors.com/scoutingcameras.html?gclid=CMfvnYX0yokCFQ-9VAodLgnAPA> > > >> > > >> there are a couple of cameras here that accept an external 12V battery > > >> kit and have most/all of the features you need. > > > > > >The IR beam would be the largest current drain. A PIR sensor would probably > > >be better. > > > > If it really needs to be a beam, then you should be able to use a pretty low duty cycle - e.g. a > > 100us pulse once per second, with detector wakeup time would probably avarage something like 50uA. > > Thanks to everyone for your input and excellent suggestions. > Both converting an existing camera and the camera module seem like > they are worth pursuing, and from everyones response it seems that the > concept is feasible. > > My next step is to actually build a prototype, can you recommend any > literature or website which will help me figure out the pieces I need > (I'm not an electrical engineer)?. > > Thanks for all the help so far. > Sal PolifemoI started looking at some of the sites mentioned in this thread and I think I'm starting to get an idea of what I need. What are you opinions on the following starting configuration CMOS camera: C328-7640 from http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2517/.f?sc=8&category=241 SD storage: DOSONACHIP with a 512MB media card Microcontroller: ?? I'm not sure which microcontroller to choose, I'm assuming it needs 2 serial channels and some memory to store the image while its copying it from the camera to storage. I see that the various chips are programmed in assembler, visual basic, and others. Is the programming language of the chip something to consider? I already know how to program in C, Again, thanks for your input. Sal Polifemo
cmos camera, low power consumption
Started by ●January 5, 2007
Reply by ●January 6, 20072007-01-06
Reply by ●January 7, 20072007-01-07
"Sal P." <polifemo@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1168140628.936388.252680@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...> > Sal P. wrote: >> Mike Harrison wrote: >> > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Donald Harris" >> > <harrisdw1@verizon.net> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >"larwe" <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > >news:1168056271.111695.144970@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >> >> > >> Sal P. wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> feasibility of a digital camera which can last for about 3 weeks >> > >>> with >> > >>> out being recharged (they approached a few camera companies and >> > >>> were >> > >> > This might be worth a serious look : >> > http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2420/.f?sc=8&category=241 >> > Essentially a digital camera in module form that you can get control >> > over with a microcontroller. >> > You should be able to control this more ieasily than a ready made >> > camera as it has a documented >> > interface. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> By the way: >> > >> >> > >> <http://www.nativeoutdoors.com/scoutingcameras.html?gclid=CMfvnYX0yokCFQ-9VAodLgnAPA> >> > >> >> > >> there are a couple of cameras here that accept an external 12V >> > >> battery >> > >> kit and have most/all of the features you need. >> > > >> > >The IR beam would be the largest current drain. A PIR sensor would >> > >probably >> > >be better. >> > >> > If it really needs to be a beam, then you should be able to use a >> > pretty low duty cycle - e.g. a >> > 100us pulse once per second, with detector wakeup time would probably >> > avarage something like 50uA. >> >> Thanks to everyone for your input and excellent suggestions. >> Both converting an existing camera and the camera module seem like >> they are worth pursuing, and from everyones response it seems that the >> concept is feasible. >> >> My next step is to actually build a prototype, can you recommend any >> literature or website which will help me figure out the pieces I need >> (I'm not an electrical engineer)?. >> >> Thanks for all the help so far. >> Sal Polifemo > > I started looking at some of the sites mentioned in this thread and I > think I'm starting to get an idea of what I need. > What are you opinions on the following starting configuration > CMOS camera: C328-7640 from > http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2517/.f?sc=8&category=241 > SD storage: DOSONACHIP with a 512MB media card > Microcontroller: ?? > > I'm not sure which microcontroller to choose, I'm assuming it needs 2 > serial channels and some memory to store the image while its copying > it from the camera to storage. > I see that the various chips are programmed in assembler, visual basic, > and others. Is the programming language of the chip something to > consider? I already know how to program in C, > > Again, thanks for your input. > Sal PolifemoBy the time you buy the camera module, the DosOnChip module and build a microcontroller module and then add a PIR sensor, you could buy a Game Camera much cheaper. Check out the Wildview or Game Watcher. They are less than $100. Don
Reply by ●January 7, 20072007-01-07
On Jan 7, 2:05 am, "Donald Harris" <harris...@verizon.net> wrote:> "Sal P." <polif...@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:1168140628.936388.252680@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > Sal P. wrote: > >> Mike Harrison wrote: > >> > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:19:47 GMT, "Donald Harris" > >> > <harris...@verizon.net> wrote: > > >> > >"larwe" <zwsdot...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> > >news:1168056271.111695.144970@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > >> > >> Sal P. wrote: > > >> > >>> feasibility of a digital camera which can last for about 3 weeks > >> > >>> with > >> > >>> out being recharged (they approached a few camera companies and > >> > >>> were > > >> > This might be worth a serious look : > >> >http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2420/.f?sc=8&category=241 > >> > Essentially a digital camera in module form that you can get control > >> > over with a microcontroller. > >> > You should be able to control this more ieasily than a ready made > >> > camera as it has a documented > >> > interface. > > >> > >> By the way: > > >> > >> <http://www.nativeoutdoors.com/scoutingcameras.html?gclid=CMfvnYX0yokC...> > > >> > >> there are a couple of cameras here that accept an external 12V > >> > >> battery > >> > >> kit and have most/all of the features you need. > > >> > >The IR beam would be the largest current drain. A PIR sensor would > >> > >probably > >> > >be better. > > >> > If it really needs to be a beam, then you should be able to use a > >> > pretty low duty cycle - e.g. a > >> > 100us pulse once per second, with detector wakeup time would probably > >> > avarage something like 50uA. > > >> Thanks to everyone for your input and excellent suggestions. > >> Both converting an existing camera and the camera module seem like > >> they are worth pursuing, and from everyones response it seems that the > >> concept is feasible. > > >> My next step is to actually build a prototype, can you recommend any > >> literature or website which will help me figure out the pieces I need > >> (I'm not an electrical engineer)?. > > >> Thanks for all the help so far. > >> Sal Polifemo > > > I started looking at some of the sites mentioned in this thread and I > > think I'm starting to get an idea of what I need. > > What are you opinions on the following starting configuration > > CMOS camera: C328-7640 from > >http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.2517/.f?sc=8&category=241 > > SD storage: DOSONACHIP with a 512MB media card > > Microcontroller: ?? > > > I'm not sure which microcontroller to choose, I'm assuming it needs 2 > > serial channels and some memory to store the image while its copying > > it from the camera to storage. > > I see that the various chips are programmed in assembler, visual basic, > > and others. Is the programming language of the chip something to > > consider? I already know how to program in C, > > > Again, thanks for your input. > > Sal PolifemoBy the time you buy the camera module, the DosOnChip module and build a > microcontroller module and then add a PIR sensor, you could buy a Game > Camera much cheaper. Check out the Wildview or Game Watcher. They are less > than $100. > > DonThe wildview camera is worth a closer look, I forwarded the info to the group to get theyre comments. I still want to go forward with the prototype, looking at this long term there are possibilities for image recognition applications and this would be a good foundation for that. I'm interested in you opinions on which microcontroller to choose, for the moment I'm only interested in copying the image from the camera module to the SD storage device. Again thanks for the help.
