OT? IDE flash drive in OLD pc.

In article <61c5ae22-8afb-4d9c-889c-0ccb75d639d1
@v32g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,  says...
> On Dec 21, 2:00 pm, Didi <d...@tgi-sci.com> wrote:
> 
> > the short answer to your query is that there is nothing you can
> > buy
> > and plug in which will make any flash card look like a floppy drive.
> >
> > It can be made, of course - some of us here can design it for you :-).
> 
> While this was not what the poster needed, I'm pretty sure such a
> device is already on the market.

Really?  Where?
 
> A primary application is older test equipment which wants to write
> data to floppy disks.  Even if a floppy drive can be found in a modern
> office, the reliability is often quite poor (both because 3.5"
> reliability was never great once it went mass market, and because the
> drives and media are now quite old).

Exactly where I'd like to use one if they existed.

Robert

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> While this was not what the poster needed, I'm pretty sure such a
> device is already on the market

Oh, so you claim to know things I don't.
Can you please prove it.

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On Dec 26, 8:11=A0pm, cs_post...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2:00 pm, Didi <d...@tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>
> > the short answer to your query is that there is nothing you can
> > buy
> > and plug in which will make any flash card look like a floppy drive.
>
> > It can be made, of course - some of us here can design it for you :-).
>
> While this was not what the poster needed, I'm pretty sure such a
> device is already on the market.
>
> A primary application is older test equipment which wants to write
> data to floppy disks. =A0Even if a floppy drive can be found in a modern
> office, the reliability is often quite poor (both because 3.5"
> reliability was never great once it went mass market, and because the
> drives and media are now quite old).
>
> As a result, I believe you can get adapters which go in place of the
> floppy drive and take some form of modern flash memory - CF card or SD
> card most likely.

Didi <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>> While this was not what the poster needed, I'm pretty sure such a
>> device is already on the market
> Oh, so you claim to know things I don't.
> Can you please prove it.

Something like this, maybe?
<http://www.datexeurope.com/emulator/DTX200en.htm>

-a

On Dec 27, 1:30=A0pm, Anders.Monto...@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid wrote:
> Didi <d...@tgi-sci.com> wrote:
> >> While this was not what the poster needed, I'm pretty sure such a
> >> device is already on the market
> > Oh, so you claim to know things I don't.
> > Can you please prove it.
>
> Something like this, maybe?
> <http://www.datexeurope.com/emulator/DTX200en.htm>
>
> -a

Yes, looks like someone either has built it or wants to.
Anyone seen this working?

Didi wrote:
> Chuck,
> 
>>> CHS? Perhaps I did not underestimate anything and it is just that
>>> the first cards came out a very long time ago when there used to
>>> be no LBA (or it was too young to be relied solely on)?
>> Because, once upon a time, disks came with H heads, which operated
>> on C circular paths, and read from (or wrote to) S sectors per
>> path.  To operate the disk you sought the appropriate path,
>> selected the appropriate head, let the system read the disk until
>> it found the appropriate sector, and then read or wrote onto it.
> 
> actually having written the firmware it takes to do that on
> floppy disks for two different systems I had designed (using
> the same FDC, the NEC uPD765) I know that.
>  Back in 1986 or so it was far from trivial to make a 1 MHz 6809
> (which was all i had access to...) read/write a HD disk (HD came
> actually later, but DD 8" drives wroked at the same speed).
> 
>  I was wondering why CHS made it into CF cards. I know how
> it made it into the ATA standard, actually this has been their
> only addressing method at the begining .Baack then, in the
> early 90-s, I opted for SCSI rather than ATA, which stopped
> at 815 MB 2.5" drives and I had to do ATA as well, but then
> they all supported LBA and I did not have to bother about
> CHS.

Probably from PCMCIA memory cards.