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help with the 68hc24 pru

Started by MIKE November 17, 2003
hello everyone im trying to connect the 68hc24 pru to a hc11e1. i
have made the follwoing connections and still cant get the pru to
interface with the hc11.

68hc24 68hc11
pru mode pin 43: is tied to plus 5 volts
AS pin 42: to stra/AS hc11
reset pin 39: reset pin hc11
r/w pin40: r/w/strb hc11
e pin41: buffered enabled pin hc11
pin 35 to 38: a/d multiplexed outputs pc3 to pc0
pin 30 to 33: a/d multiplexed outputs pc7 to pc4
a12 pin6 : hc11 a12 pin
a13 pin5: hc11 a13 pin
a14 pin 4: hc11 a14 pin
a15 pin: hc11 a15 pin
irqn pin28: tied to +5 volts thru a 100 k resistor
i/o test pin2: tied to gnd
gnd pin 29: tied to gnd
+vdd pin17: tied to +5 volts
cs pin44: hc11 a11 pin
strb pin18: r/w /strb pin hc11
stra pin7: AS/stra hc11

im wondering if there is any neccessary decoding needed for the
r/w /strb pin and the as/stra pin, since these are dual function
pins from the hc11.also is there any necessary intilaization neeeded
software wise to make this interface work properly.



Well, realize that this may not be very helpful-depending on why youe
working with the 68HC24-but my understanding is that the 68HC24 is no
longer available (at least outside Motorola for use in its emulators).
They have taken the documentation off the website, last time I looked.
If this is for a new product, suggest you take a look at the PSD813
series from ST. These parts provide glueless connection to the 68HC11,
provide the port replacement function, and also include flash and RAM
memory.

Best regards,

Kerry Berland

Silicon Engines
2101 Oxford Road
847-803-6860
Fax 847-803-6870
Des Plaines, IL 60018 USA

-----Original Message-----
From: MIKE [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:45 PM
To:
Subject: [m68HC11] help with the 68hc24 pru
hello everyone im trying to connect the 68hc24 pru to a hc11e1. i
have made the follwoing connections and still cant get the pru to
interface with the hc11.

68hc24 68hc11
pru mode pin 43: is tied to plus 5 volts
AS pin 42: to stra/AS hc11
reset pin 39: reset pin hc11
r/w pin40: r/w/strb hc11
e pin41: buffered enabled pin hc11
pin 35 to 38: a/d multiplexed outputs pc3 to pc0
pin 30 to 33: a/d multiplexed outputs pc7 to pc4
a12 pin6 : hc11 a12 pin
a13 pin5: hc11 a13 pin
a14 pin 4: hc11 a14 pin
a15 pin: hc11 a15 pin
irqn pin28: tied to +5 volts thru a 100 k resistor
i/o test pin2: tied to gnd
gnd pin 29: tied to gnd
+vdd pin17: tied to +5 volts
cs pin44: hc11 a11 pin
strb pin18: r/w /strb pin hc11
stra pin7: AS/stra hc11

im wondering if there is any neccessary decoding needed for the
r/w /strb pin and the as/stra pin, since these are dual function
pins from the hc11.also is there any necessary intilaization neeeded
software wise to make this interface work properly.
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It may not be available from Motorola, but production is in full swing at
TEKMOS. I think they go for about $9 each in hundreds. Now if I could
just find someone making the 68HC811 things would be rosy!

http://www.tekmos.com/standard_products/TK68HC24.htm

cheers,
Nigel At 19:03 03-11-17 -0600, you wrote:
>Well, realize that this may not be very helpful-depending on why you$B!G(Bre
>working with the 68HC24-but my understanding is that the 68HC24 is no
>longer available (at least outside Motorola for use in its emulators).
>They have taken the documentation off the website, last time I looked. >
>If this is for a new product, suggest you take a look at the PSD813
>series from ST. These parts provide glueless connection to the 68HC11,
>provide the port replacement function, and also include flash and RAM
>memory.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Kerry Berland
>
>Silicon Engines
>2101 Oxford Road
>847-803-6860
>Fax 847-803-6870
>Des Plaines, IL 60018 USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MIKE [mailto:]
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:45 PM
>To:
>Subject: [m68HC11] help with the 68hc24 pru >
>hello everyone im trying to connect the 68hc24 pru to a hc11e1. i
>have made the follwoing connections and still cant get the pru to
>interface with the hc11.
>
>68hc24 68hc11
>pru mode pin 43: is tied to plus 5 volts
>AS pin 42: to stra/AS hc11
>reset pin 39: reset pin hc11
>r/w pin40: r/w/strb hc11
>e pin41: buffered enabled pin hc11
>pin 35 to 38: a/d multiplexed outputs pc3 to pc0
>pin 30 to 33: a/d multiplexed outputs pc7 to pc4
>a12 pin6 : hc11 a12 pin
>a13 pin5: hc11 a13 pin
>a14 pin 4: hc11 a14 pin
>a15 pin: hc11 a15 pin
>irqn pin28: tied to +5 volts thru a 100 k resistor
>i/o test pin2: tied to gnd
>gnd pin 29: tied to gnd
>+vdd pin17: tied to +5 volts
>cs pin44: hc11 a11 pin
>strb pin18: r/w /strb pin hc11
>stra pin7: AS/stra hc11
>
>im wondering if there is any neccessary decoding needed for the
>r/w /strb pin and the as/stra pin, since these are dual function
>pins from the hc11.also is there any necessary intilaization neeeded
>software wise to make this interface work properly. >
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If you want me to have it ready yesterday, you'd better come back the day
before and ask me.





> hello everyone im trying to connect the 68hc24 pru to a hc11e1. i
> have made the follwoing connections and still cant get the pru to
> interface with the hc11.
>
> 68hc24 68hc11
> pru mode pin 43: is tied to plus 5 volts
Depending on mode required, should be tied to 'HC11 Moda and
Modb. Normal mode : all pulled up, Boot Mode: all pulled low.
See data sheet for more details.

> AS pin 42: to stra/AS hc11
> reset pin 39: reset pin hc11
> r/w pin40: r/w/strb hc11
> e pin41: buffered enabled pin hc11
should be E clk, pin 5^

> pin 35 to 38: a/d multiplexed outputs pc3 to pc0
> pin 30 to 33: a/d multiplexed outputs pc7 to pc4
> a12 pin6 : hc11 a12 pin
> a13 pin5: hc11 a13 pin
> a14 pin 4: hc11 a14 pin
> a15 pin: hc11 a15 pin
> irqn pin28: tied to +5 volts thru a 100 k resistor
should be tied to HC11 /IRQ pin with more like 10K pullup^

> i/o test pin2: tied to gnd
> gnd pin 29: tied to gnd
> +vdd pin17: tied to +5 volts
make sure it's bypassed at the chip^

> cs pin44: hc11 a11 pin
> strb pin18: r/w /strb pin hc11
> stra pin7: AS/stra hc11
Not! ^ STRA and STRB are interrupt INPUTS, associated with port
B and C. Should not be connected to HC11.

> im wondering if there is any neccessary decoding needed for the
> r/w /strb pin and the as/stra pin, since these are dual function
> pins from the hc11.
See note above.

also is there any necessary initialization
> neeeded software wise to make this interface work properly.

Shouldn't be. Looks just like original PortA and PortB on
'HC11. Regards,
Darrell Norquay

Datalog Technology Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Voice: (403) 243-2220 Fax: (403) 243-2872
Email: Web: www.datalog.ab.ca


At 08:10 PM 17/11/03 -0500, you wrote:
>It may not be available from Motorola, but production is in full swing at
>TEKMOS. I think they go for about $9 each in hundreds.

They were very good to me when I blew up my EVM, hc24+++ 24Vdc on the
expanded MPX pins :-((

> Now if I could just find someone making the 68HC811 things would be rosy!

AMEN. I did encourage Tekmos to make them too, perhaps if enough of
us pester them......

Regards

John Samperi

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Mike --

I suggest that you check the 68HC24 data sheet for its example schematic.
You may have to go searching archives since Motorola obsoleted the 68HC24
some time ago. Also try the Moto 68HC11 area for application
notes/engineering bulletins that may show other application
designs/suggestions.

However, given the obsolete status of the 'HC24 I would suggest that you
look at other products.

An excellent example is the old WaferScale Integration (WSI) Peripherial
System Devices such as the

the PSD913 family. These perform the port replacement function plus more
and provide quantities of Flash based expansion memory plus additional RAM
space.

A good place to start might be the --

PSD913F2 / 68HC11 DESIGN GUIDE

http://www.st.com/stonline/bin/hilite.exe?file=/stonline/books/ascii/docs/7897.htm&words=PSD

Also check the ST web site http://www.st.com

Best wishes, Bob Smith --- Avoid computer viruses, Practice safe hex ---

-- Specializing in small, cost effective
embedded control systems --

http://www.smithmachineworks.com/embedprod.html Robert L. (Bob) Smith
Smith Machine Works, Inc.
9900 Lumlay Road
Richmond, VA 23236 804/745-1065
----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: [m68HC11] help with the 68hc24 pru > hello everyone im trying to connect the 68hc24 pru to a hc11e1. i
> have made the follwoing connections and still cant get the pru to
> interface with the hc11.
>
> 68hc24 68hc11
> pru mode pin 43: is tied to plus 5 volts
> AS pin 42: to stra/AS hc11
> reset pin 39: reset pin hc11
> r/w pin40: r/w/strb hc11
> e pin41: buffered enabled pin hc11
> pin 35 to 38: a/d multiplexed outputs pc3 to pc0
> pin 30 to 33: a/d multiplexed outputs pc7 to pc4
> a12 pin6 : hc11 a12 pin
> a13 pin5: hc11 a13 pin
> a14 pin 4: hc11 a14 pin
> a15 pin: hc11 a15 pin
> irqn pin28: tied to +5 volts thru a 100 k resistor
> i/o test pin2: tied to gnd
> gnd pin 29: tied to gnd
> +vdd pin17: tied to +5 volts
> cs pin44: hc11 a11 pin
> strb pin18: r/w /strb pin hc11
> stra pin7: AS/stra hc11
>
> im wondering if there is any neccessary decoding needed for the
> r/w /strb pin and the as/stra pin, since these are dual function
> pins from the hc11.also is there any necessary intilaization neeeded
> software wise to make this interface work properly. >
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >
>
> ">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Samperi" <>
To: < > At 08:10 PM 17/11/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >It may not be available from Motorola, but production is in full swing at
> >TEKMOS. I think they go for about $9 each in hundreds.
>
> They were very good to me when I blew up my EVM, hc24+++ 24Vdc on the
> expanded MPX pins :-((
>
> > Now if I could just find someone making the 68HC811 things would be rosy!
>
> AMEN. I did encourage Tekmos to make them too, perhaps if enough of
> us pester them......

Ditto! (Are we enough yet?)

> John Samperi




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