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Started by Jessica July 22, 2006
Hi all,

New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student who's
thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was wondering if
any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for the
HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as efficient this
way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.

Any help you can offer would be appreciated,
Brian

New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student who's
thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was wondering if
any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for the
HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as efficient this
way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
====================================Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete 25 year old
computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++ compiler for it?
How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?



No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the HC11
was given to me by another professor. The price is right and unless
you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I need
it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a small
part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.

If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.

Brian
--- In m..., BobGardner@... wrote:
>
> New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student who's
> thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
wondering if
> any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for
the
> HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as efficient
this
> way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
> ====================================> Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete 25
year old
> computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
compiler for it?
> How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
>
>
>

I havent tried any of them, but a google search for +GNU +HC11 +"C "
produces some very usable looking leads. I think c++ is asking a lot of
a 32K memory module. If what you are really asking for is a high level
language, I have tested this java tool on the handyboard HC11 robotics
controller. I don't know how hard it will be to transform the handyboard
based library functions to your board, but this is a reduced Java
virtual machine that runs in the HC11 among other microprocessors..
http://www.rtjcom.com/main.php?p=home.

Hope that helps,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of Jessica
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:06 PM
To: m...
Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler

No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the HC11
was given to me by another professor. The price is right and unless
you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I need
it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a small
part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.

If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.

Brian

--- In m68HC11@yahoogroups .com,
BobGardner@... wrote:
>
> New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student who's
> thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
wondering if
> any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for
the
> HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as efficient
this
> way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
> ====================================> Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete 25
year old
> computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
compiler for it?
> How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
>
>
>



Thank you very much for the info. The hardest part about finding
stuff online is searching the right keywords! Using your keywords, I
found a couple that sound like they'll work and look forward to
trying them out when I finish assembling the board.

The board itself is a 6.270 originally developed by MIT. I believe
this board is also a predecessor of the Handy board you mentioned
but I could be mistaken. I received the kit from one of my
professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used so I
ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that I'll
have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software guy
and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML so
this will be a learning experience for sure.

Thanks again for your help.
Brian

--- In m..., "Jim Peterson" wrote:
>
> I havent tried any of them, but a google search for +GNU +HC11
+"C "
> produces some very usable looking leads. I think c++ is asking a
lot of
> a 32K memory module. If what you are really asking for is a high
level
> language, I have tested this java tool on the handyboard HC11
robotics
> controller. I don't know how hard it will be to transform the
handyboard
> based library functions to your board, but this is a reduced Java
> virtual machine that runs in the HC11 among other microprocessors..
> http://www.rtjcom.com/main.php?p=home.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m... [mailto:m...] On
Behalf
> Of Jessica
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: m...
> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
>
> No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the HC11
> was given to me by another professor. The price is right and
unless
> you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
> just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I
need
> it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a small
> part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
> compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.
>
> If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.
>
> Brian
>
> --- In m68HC11@yahoogroups .com,
> BobGardner@ wrote:
> >
> > New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student
who's
> > thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
> wondering if
> > any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for
> the
> > HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as
efficient
> this
> > way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
> > ====================================> > Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete 25
> year old
> > computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
> compiler for it?
> > How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 04:50:53AM -0000, Jessica wrote:
>
> I received the kit from one of my
> professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
> competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used so I
> ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that I'll
> have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software guy
> and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML so
> this will be a learning experience for sure.

Sounds like its time for the first learning experience from the
thesis/project. Any time you limit your choices to what you "know" then
you are selling everyone short. I strongly suggest you expand your
horizon and consider straight C. Already close with C++. With a little
experience in C you won't miss anything from C++ as you are not going to
be dealing with anything as complex as a graphics widget which has to
display correctly on screen or printer, that may be hidden or partially
hidden.

There is a good selection of C compilers for the HC11. Many write
excellent efficient code. There is somewhere between 0 and none C++
compilers. I think you will spend more time making gcc++ work than to
make your own code work.

Freescale/Metrowerks is good about providing free C/C++ compilers for
current products. Neither HC11 nor HC16 is considered current. If you
are willing to throw money at it there is at least a Metrowerks C
compiler, maybe C++. Or if you change to an HC12 you can get the
Metrowerks C/C++ package limited to 32k ROM image for free.

Sounds like this is a robotics project and you have hardware prebuilt,
both mechanical and electronic, to serve that need. That this is driving
the selection of HC11. As others have suggested if this were a clean
sheet the HC11 is not the right choice. Debugging code on an HC11 is
harder than on modern MCUs unless one has an In-Circuit Emulator. Nohau
is a good vendor of such. Haven't looked lately but mine cost $6,000 in
1994. Good but lesser models may be only $2000. I don't see prices
listed: http://www.nohau.com/factory_specials.html

Modern MCUs have the most of the ICE function built-in and only require
an inexpensive adapter to connect. $100 for the P&E HC12 module. I
rather liked this $40 module over Atmel's $300 module (had both) when I
was doing AVR projects:
http://www.ecrostech.com/Products/AvrJtagIce/Intro.htm

The AVR Butterfly ($20 from DigiKey), with about $75 of stuff from
ECROS, and the free software tools from Atmel, and WinAVR, you could be
well on your way. Of course it doesn't yet connect to your robotics
hardware but you haven't said anything about what its expected to do.

http://www.bdmicro.com/devtools/ is also a good place to start with AVR.
The MAVRIC boards are about $100 each and commonly used in robotics
applications.

What I'm saying, and think others were saying, in criticizing your
selection of HC11 is with modern options such as the AVR and HC12 your
"free" hardware will be harder to use than anything else. Don't know how
many hours your project will take but it could easily take 100 hours
longer without ICE than with, and if ICE only cost $100 more then thats
the cheapest $1/hour you can spend.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, d...@HiWAAY.net
=======================================================================Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
Brian, there is an EXCELLENT book on the HC11. It's a book called, "The 68HC11
Microcontroller". The author's name is Greenfield and the publisher is Sanders
College Publishing. I don't know if you can get it on Amazon, but it's a great
source for programming the HC11 with ASM.

Maybe someone at MIT has a copy of it or you could get it with an intralibrary
loan.

Hope this helps.

Jack Donoghue
South Boston, MA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
> Thank you very much for the info. The hardest part about finding
> stuff online is searching the right keywords! Using your keywords, I
> found a couple that sound like they'll work and look forward to
> trying them out when I finish assembling the board.
>
> The board itself is a 6.270 originally developed by MIT. I believe
> this board is also a predecessor of the Handy board you mentioned
> but I could be mistaken. I received the kit from one of my
> professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
> competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used so I
> ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that I'll
> have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software guy
> and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML so
> this will be a learning experience for sure.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
> Brian
>
> --- In m..., "Jim Peterson" wrote:
>>
>> I havent tried any of them, but a google search for +GNU +HC11
> +"C "
>> produces some very usable looking leads. I think c++ is asking a
> lot of
>> a 32K memory module. If what you are really asking for is a high
> level
>> language, I have tested this java tool on the handyboard HC11
> robotics
>> controller. I don't know how hard it will be to transform the
> handyboard
>> based library functions to your board, but this is a reduced Java
>> virtual machine that runs in the HC11 among other microprocessors..
>> http://www.rtjcom.com/main.php?p=home.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Jim
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: m... [mailto:m...] On
> Behalf
>> Of Jessica
>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:06 PM
>> To: m...
>> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
>>
>> No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the HC11
>> was given to me by another professor. The price is right and
> unless
>> you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
>> just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I
> need
>> it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a small
>> part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
>> compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.
>>
>> If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> --- In m68HC11@yahoogroups .com,
>> BobGardner@ wrote:
>> >
>> > New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student
> who's
>> > thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
>> wondering if
>> > any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code for
>> the
>> > HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as
> efficient
>> this
>> > way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
>> > ====================================>> > Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete 25
>> year old
>> > computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
>> compiler for it?
>> > How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
Thanks for the reply. I'm actually taking the C++ class to help me
program the microcontroller so I'm not afraid of learning. The
summer was the only time I could squeeze in a prog. class as my
graduate schedule during the year isn't exactly relaxed. C++ was as
close to C as I could get this summer so that's why I took it. If I
have to learn 10 languages to get the project done, so be it. I'm
new to any sort of embedded control and was simply curious about the
hardware I have, what's available out there, and what's normally
done. All my past controls experience has been with PLC's and ladder
logic so this is all Greek to me. I was originally looking at a
JStamp using the aJ-80 processor but they're not exactly cheap and
when this Motorola one came along, I jumped on it.

The project itself is designing/building a prototype antilock
braking system for a unique application. The microcontroller will be
calculating "wheel" speed via two (and possibly more depending on
the application) magneto-resistive speed sensors and using my
control algorithm, decide how to change the applied brake force to
maximize braking while preventing lockup similar to a traditional
automotive ABS system. I have the project under control mechanically
and electrically but this is the big hurdle. I'm not afraid of hard
work or learning. If I were, I wouldn't be in the grad. program!:-)

I really appreciate all the info and links. I'll have to take some
time to read them all and I'm sure I'll be as confused as ever.

I'm not totally against spending a bit more money but I'm coming to
the end of my budget. Given my application, what would you consider
to be the "ideal" C based microcontroller?

Thanks again,
Brian

--- In m..., David Kelly wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 04:50:53AM -0000, Jessica wrote:
> >
> > I received the kit from one of my
> > professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
> > competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used
so I
> > ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that
I'll
> > have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software
guy
> > and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML
so
> > this will be a learning experience for sure.
>
> Sounds like its time for the first learning experience from the
> thesis/project. Any time you limit your choices to what you "know"
then
> you are selling everyone short. I strongly suggest you expand your
> horizon and consider straight C. Already close with C++. With a
little
> experience in C you won't miss anything from C++ as you are not
going to
> be dealing with anything as complex as a graphics widget which has
to
> display correctly on screen or printer, that may be hidden or
partially
> hidden.
>
> There is a good selection of C compilers for the HC11. Many write
> excellent efficient code. There is somewhere between 0 and none C++
> compilers. I think you will spend more time making gcc++ work than
to
> make your own code work.
>
> Freescale/Metrowerks is good about providing free C/C++ compilers
for
> current products. Neither HC11 nor HC16 is considered current. If
you
> are willing to throw money at it there is at least a Metrowerks C
> compiler, maybe C++. Or if you change to an HC12 you can get the
> Metrowerks C/C++ package limited to 32k ROM image for free.
>
> Sounds like this is a robotics project and you have hardware
prebuilt,
> both mechanical and electronic, to serve that need. That this is
driving
> the selection of HC11. As others have suggested if this were a
clean
> sheet the HC11 is not the right choice. Debugging code on an HC11
is
> harder than on modern MCUs unless one has an In-Circuit Emulator.
Nohau
> is a good vendor of such. Haven't looked lately but mine cost
$6,000 in
> 1994. Good but lesser models may be only $2000. I don't see prices
> listed: http://www.nohau.com/factory_specials.html
>
> Modern MCUs have the most of the ICE function built-in and only
require
> an inexpensive adapter to connect. $100 for the P&E HC12 module. I
> rather liked this $40 module over Atmel's $300 module (had both)
when I
> was doing AVR projects:
> http://www.ecrostech.com/Products/AvrJtagIce/Intro.htm
>
> The AVR Butterfly ($20 from DigiKey), with about $75 of stuff from
> ECROS, and the free software tools from Atmel, and WinAVR, you
could be
> well on your way. Of course it doesn't yet connect to your robotics
> hardware but you haven't said anything about what its expected to
do.
>
> http://www.bdmicro.com/devtools/ is also a good place to start
with AVR.
> The MAVRIC boards are about $100 each and commonly used in robotics
> applications.
>
> What I'm saying, and think others were saying, in criticizing your
> selection of HC11 is with modern options such as the AVR and HC12
your
> "free" hardware will be harder to use than anything else. Don't
know how
> many hours your project will take but it could easily take 100
hours
> longer without ICE than with, and if ICE only cost $100 more then
thats
> the cheapest $1/hour you can spend.
>
> --
> David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@...
>
======================================================================> Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
>

Thank you for the info. I'm currently reading this book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131129848/sr=8-
4/qid53678968/ref=sr_1_4/102-6331058-3490508?ie=UTF8 and it also
gives a lot of info on programming in assembly language. I'm slowly
getting a grasp on it but I'm a little slow on the uptake anyway LOL.

Brian

--- In m..., "Jack Donoghue" wrote:
>
> Brian, there is an EXCELLENT book on the HC11. It's a book
called, "The 68HC11
> Microcontroller". The author's name is Greenfield and the
publisher is Sanders
> College Publishing. I don't know if you can get it on Amazon, but
it's a great
> source for programming the HC11 with ASM.
>
> Maybe someone at MIT has a copy of it or you could get it with an
intralibrary
> loan.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jack Donoghue
> South Boston, MA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jessica"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:50 AM
> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
> > Thank you very much for the info. The hardest part about finding
> > stuff online is searching the right keywords! Using your
keywords, I
> > found a couple that sound like they'll work and look forward to
> > trying them out when I finish assembling the board.
> >
> > The board itself is a 6.270 originally developed by MIT. I
believe
> > this board is also a predecessor of the Handy board you mentioned
> > but I could be mistaken. I received the kit from one of my
> > professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
> > competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used
so I
> > ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that
I'll
> > have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software
guy
> > and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML
so
> > this will be a learning experience for sure.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help.
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In m..., "Jim Peterson" wrote:
> >>
> >> I havent tried any of them, but a google search for +GNU +HC11
> > +"C "
> >> produces some very usable looking leads. I think c++ is asking a
> > lot of
> >> a 32K memory module. If what you are really asking for is a high
> > level
> >> language, I have tested this java tool on the handyboard HC11
> > robotics
> >> controller. I don't know how hard it will be to transform the
> > handyboard
> >> based library functions to your board, but this is a reduced
Java
> >> virtual machine that runs in the HC11 among other
microprocessors..
> >> http://www.rtjcom.com/main.php?p=home.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: m... [mailto:m...]
On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Jessica
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:06 PM
> >> To: m...
> >> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the
HC11
> >> was given to me by another professor. The price is right and
> > unless
> >> you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
> >> just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I
> > need
> >> it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a
small
> >> part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
> >> compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.
> >>
> >> If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> --- In m68HC11@yahoogroups
40yahoogroups.com> .com,
> >> BobGardner@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> > New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student
> > who's
> >> > thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
> >> wondering if
> >> > any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code
for
> >> the
> >> > HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as
> > efficient
> >> this
> >> > way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
> >> > ====================================> >> > Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete
25
> >> year old
> >> > computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
> >> compiler for it?
> >> > How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
I

-----Original Message-----
From: m... [mailto:m...] On Behalf
Of Jessica
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:26 PM
To: m...
Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler

Thank you for the info. I'm currently reading this book:
http://www.amazon.
com/gp/product/0131129848/sr=8-
4/qid53678968/ref=sr_1_4/102-6331058-3490508?ie=UTF8 and it also
gives a lot of info on programming in assembly language. I'm slowly
getting a grasp on it but I'm a little slow on the uptake anyway LOL.

Brian

--- In m68HC11@yahoogroups .com,
"Jack Donoghue" wrote:
>
> Brian, there is an EXCELLENT book on the HC11. It's a book
called, "The 68HC11
> Microcontroller". The author's name is Greenfield and the
publisher is Sanders
> College Publishing. I don't know if you can get it on Amazon, but
it's a great
> source for programming the HC11 with ASM.
>
> Maybe someone at MIT has a copy of it or you could get it with an
intralibrary
> loan.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jack Donoghue
> South Boston, MA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jessica"
> To: .com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:50 AM
> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
> > Thank you very much for the info. The hardest part about finding
> > stuff online is searching the right keywords! Using your
keywords, I
> > found a couple that sound like they'll work and look forward to
> > trying them out when I finish assembling the board.
> >
> > The board itself is a 6.270 originally developed by MIT. I
believe
> > this board is also a predecessor of the Handy board you mentioned
> > but I could be mistaken. I received the kit from one of my
> > professors who was involved in one of the earlier robot design
> > competitions. I guess this was an extra kit that was never used
so I
> > ended up with it. I also have a new HC16 evaluation board that
I'll
> > have to play with as well. I'm a Mech. Engineer NOT a software
guy
> > and my programming skills are limited to C++, VB, php, and HTML
so
> > this will be a learning experience for sure.
> >
> > Thanks again for your help.
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In m68HC11@yahoogroups .com,
"Jim Peterson" wrote:
> >>
> >> I havent tried any of them, but a google search for +GNU +HC11
> > +"C "
> >> produces some very usable looking leads. I think c++ is asking a
> > lot of
> >> a 32K memory module. If what you are really asking for is a high
> > level
> >> language, I have tested this java tool on the handyboard HC11
> > robotics
> >> controller. I don't know how hard it will be to transform the
> > handyboard
> >> based library functions to your board, but this is a reduced
Java
> >> virtual machine that runs in the HC11 among other
microprocessors..
> >> http://www.rtjcom.
com/main.php?p=home.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: m68HC11@yahoogroups .com
[mailto:m68HC11@yahoogroups .com]
On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Jessica
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:06 PM
> >> To: m68HC11@yahoogroups .com
> >> Subject: [m68HC11] Re: HC11/C++ compiler
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No, this is not a JOKE. This is a self-funded project and the
HC11
> >> was given to me by another professor. The price is right and
> > unless
> >> you'd like to donate a newer unit to the cause, this one will do
> >> just fine. The HC11 is more than capable of doing everything I
> > need
> >> it to for this particular project. Programming it is just a
small
> >> part of the project and I am not sure what's available as far as
> >> compilers are concerned, which is why I ASKED.
> >>
> >> If you have anything helpful to say, I'd love to hear it.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> --- In m68HC11@yahoogroups
40yahoogroups.com> .com,
> >> BobGardner@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> > New to this forum and microcontrollers. I'm a grad. student
> > who's
> >> > thesis project will involve programming an HC11 and I was
> >> wondering if
> >> > any of you know of a free/cheap compiler for generating code
for
> >> the
> >> > HC11 from a C++ program? I realize the code won't be as
> > efficient
> >> this
> >> > way but in this case, efficiency isn't that big an issue.
> >> > ====================================> >> > Maybe this is a joke? What prof would let you use an obsolete
25
> >> year old
> >> > computer for a thesis? And what makes you think there is a c++
> >> compiler for it?
> >> > How about an AVR? a TI MSP430? an HC12?
> >> >
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