I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for JTAG
debugging from within the IAR IDE.
I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
Thanks,
boB
Alternate to Segger J-Link JTAG for IAR EWARM ???
Started by ●May 9, 2012
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
--- In l..., "boB G" wrote:
> I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for JTAG
> debugging from within the IAR IDE.
>
> I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
>
> Thanks,
> boB
>
You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
Another Bob
> I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for JTAG
> debugging from within the IAR IDE.
>
> I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
>
> Thanks,
> boB
>
You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
Another Bob
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
--- In l..., "Bob T" wrote:
>
> --- In l..., "boB G" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for JTAG
> > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> >
> > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > boB
> >
> You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we don't get confused !!
The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without acknowledgement.
I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings" which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of their compiler !
BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they certainly have their big company problems too.
I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some sort ??
Thanks for listening !
boB
>
> Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
>
> There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
>
> Another Bob
>
>
> --- In l..., "boB G" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for JTAG
> > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> >
> > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > boB
> >
> You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we don't get confused !!
The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without acknowledgement.
I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings" which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of their compiler !
BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they certainly have their big company problems too.
I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some sort ??
Thanks for listening !
boB
>
> Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
>
> There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
>
> Another Bob
>
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
Bob,
you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
(http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
and running and will probably need a few more.
Cheers
Olivier
bobtransformer wrote:
>
> --- In l... ,
> "Bob T" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> "boB G" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> JTAG
> > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > >
> > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > boB
> > >
> > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
>
> Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> don't get confused !!
>
> The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> acknowledgement.
>
> I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
>
> The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> their compiler !
>
> BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
>
> Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
>
> with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
>
> And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
>
> I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> certainly have their big company problems too.
>
> I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> sort ??
>
> Thanks for listening !
>
> boB
>
> >
> > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> >
> > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> >
> > Another Bob
> >
--
Olivier Gautherot
*Email:* o...@gautherot.net
*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
*Web:* www.gautherot.net
*LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
(http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
and running and will probably need a few more.
Cheers
Olivier
bobtransformer wrote:
>
> --- In l... ,
> "Bob T" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> "boB G" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> JTAG
> > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > >
> > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > boB
> > >
> > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
>
> Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> don't get confused !!
>
> The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> acknowledgement.
>
> I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
>
> The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> their compiler !
>
> BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
>
> Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
>
> with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
>
> And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
>
> I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> certainly have their big company problems too.
>
> I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> sort ??
>
> Thanks for listening !
>
> boB
>
> >
> > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> >
> > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> >
> > Another Bob
> >
--
Olivier Gautherot
*Email:* o...@gautherot.net
*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
*Web:* www.gautherot.net
*LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
--- In l..., Olivier Gautherot wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
>
> OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> and running and will probably need a few more.
> Cheers
> Olivier
>
That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
Maybe someone else here has used it ??
I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
Thank you Olivier !!
boB
> bobtransformer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> > "Bob T" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l... ,
> > "boB G" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> > JTAG
> > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> >
> > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > don't get confused !!
> >
> > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > acknowledgement.
> >
> > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> >
> > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > their compiler !
> >
> > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> >
> > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> >
> > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> >
> > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> >
> > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > certainly have their big company problems too.
> >
> > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> > sort ??
> >
> > Thanks for listening !
> >
> > boB
> >
> > >
> > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > >
> > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > >
> > > Another Bob
> > >
> >
> >
> --
>
> Olivier Gautherot
> *Email:* olivier@...
> *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
>
> OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> and running and will probably need a few more.
> Cheers
> Olivier
>
That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
Maybe someone else here has used it ??
I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
Thank you Olivier !!
boB
> bobtransformer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> > "Bob T" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l... ,
> > "boB G" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> > JTAG
> > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> >
> > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > don't get confused !!
> >
> > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > acknowledgement.
> >
> > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> >
> > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > their compiler !
> >
> > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> >
> > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> >
> > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> >
> > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> >
> > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > certainly have their big company problems too.
> >
> > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> > sort ??
> >
> > Thanks for listening !
> >
> > boB
> >
> > >
> > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > >
> > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > >
> > > Another Bob
> > >
> >
> >
> --
>
> Olivier Gautherot
> *Email:* olivier@...
> *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
>
>
>
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
Bob,
note that the download speed of a professional JTAG probe is better that
OpenOCD: people report a stable use of OpenOCD at up to 500kHz (and
others as low as 10kHz but I seem to be on the lucky side). I assume
professional tools support up to several MHz and enhance the debugging
experience, depending on the type of app that you're debugging. As the
probe costs only $79 at Mouser, you won't loose much if you give it a try.
Cheers
Olivier
boB G wrote:
>
> --- In l... ,
> Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> >
> > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > and running and will probably need a few more.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Olivier
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
>
> Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
>
> I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
>
> Thank you Olivier !!
>
> boB
>
> > bobtransformer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> wondering
> > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work
> for
> > > JTAG
> > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much
> about
> > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > boB
> > > > >
> > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> want to
> > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > >
> > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > don't get confused !!
> > >
> > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> freedom of
> > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > acknowledgement.
> > >
> > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > >
> > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > their compiler !
> > >
> > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > >
> > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > >
> > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > >
> > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > >
> > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would
> like
> > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> proof
> > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do
> make
> > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > >
> > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list,
> like
> > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of
> some
> > > sort ??
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening !
> > >
> > > boB
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > >
> > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > >
> > > > Another Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Olivier Gautherot
> > *Email:* olivier@...
> > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
Olivier Gautherot
*Email:* o...@gautherot.net
*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
*Web:* www.gautherot.net
*LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
note that the download speed of a professional JTAG probe is better that
OpenOCD: people report a stable use of OpenOCD at up to 500kHz (and
others as low as 10kHz but I seem to be on the lucky side). I assume
professional tools support up to several MHz and enhance the debugging
experience, depending on the type of app that you're debugging. As the
probe costs only $79 at Mouser, you won't loose much if you give it a try.
Cheers
Olivier
boB G wrote:
>
> --- In l... ,
> Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> >
> > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > and running and will probably need a few more.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Olivier
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
>
> Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
>
> I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
>
> Thank you Olivier !!
>
> boB
>
> > bobtransformer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> wondering
> > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work
> for
> > > JTAG
> > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much
> about
> > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > boB
> > > > >
> > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> want to
> > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > >
> > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > don't get confused !!
> > >
> > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> freedom of
> > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > acknowledgement.
> > >
> > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > >
> > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > their compiler !
> > >
> > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > >
> > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > >
> > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > >
> > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > >
> > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would
> like
> > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> proof
> > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do
> make
> > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > >
> > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list,
> like
> > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of
> some
> > > sort ??
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening !
> > >
> > > boB
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > >
> > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > >
> > > > Another Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Olivier Gautherot
> > *Email:* olivier@...
> > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
Olivier Gautherot
*Email:* o...@gautherot.net
*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
*Web:* www.gautherot.net
*LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
--- In l..., Olivier Gautherot wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> note that the download speed of a professional JTAG probe is better that
> OpenOCD: people report a stable use of OpenOCD at up to 500kHz (and
> others as low as 10kHz but I seem to be on the lucky side). I assume
> professional tools support up to several MHz and enhance the debugging
> experience, depending on the type of app that you're debugging. As the
> probe costs only $79 at Mouser, you won't loose much if you give it a try.
>
> Cheers
> Olivier
Yes, but I wonder what the term "professional" means really ??!?
I need these things to keep working and fast doesn't matter if it doesn't work for me. I'd be happy to just have a second source.
Use the Segger when it works and if it breaks, use the slower one temporarily at least.
We also use Xilinx USB "Platform cables" to program our CPLDs...
Xilinx doesn't even support or warranty their USB JTAG programmers.
Every time one breaks, we have to spend hundreds of dollars to
buy a new one. So, yesterday, me and one of my techs looked into this more deeply and were able to fix 5 (five) of those USB programmers. Just saved $1,250 !! Heck with them. I'd love
to see open source versions of these. Get these "Professional" outfits to move over a little bit ! More competition !
Thank you very much for the info and input !!
boB
> boB G wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> > Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> > >
> > > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > > and running and will probably need a few more.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Olivier
> > >
> >
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
> >
> > Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> > I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> > than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
> >
> > I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
> >
> > Thank you Olivier !!
> >
> > boB
> >
> > > bobtransformer wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> > ,
> > > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In l...
> > ,
> > > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> > wondering
> > > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work
> > for
> > > > JTAG
> > > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much
> > about
> > > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > boB
> > > > > >
> > > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> > want to
> > > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > > don't get confused !!
> > > >
> > > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> > freedom of
> > > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > > acknowledgement.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > > >
> > > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > > their compiler !
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > > >
> > > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > > >
> > > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > > >
> > > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > > >
> > > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would
> > like
> > > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> > proof
> > > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do
> > make
> > > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list,
> > like
> > > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of
> > some
> > > > sort ??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for listening !
> > > >
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another Bob
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Olivier Gautherot
> > > *Email:* olivier@
> > > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
>
> Olivier Gautherot
> *Email:* olivier@...
> *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> note that the download speed of a professional JTAG probe is better that
> OpenOCD: people report a stable use of OpenOCD at up to 500kHz (and
> others as low as 10kHz but I seem to be on the lucky side). I assume
> professional tools support up to several MHz and enhance the debugging
> experience, depending on the type of app that you're debugging. As the
> probe costs only $79 at Mouser, you won't loose much if you give it a try.
>
> Cheers
> Olivier
Yes, but I wonder what the term "professional" means really ??!?
I need these things to keep working and fast doesn't matter if it doesn't work for me. I'd be happy to just have a second source.
Use the Segger when it works and if it breaks, use the slower one temporarily at least.
We also use Xilinx USB "Platform cables" to program our CPLDs...
Xilinx doesn't even support or warranty their USB JTAG programmers.
Every time one breaks, we have to spend hundreds of dollars to
buy a new one. So, yesterday, me and one of my techs looked into this more deeply and were able to fix 5 (five) of those USB programmers. Just saved $1,250 !! Heck with them. I'd love
to see open source versions of these. Get these "Professional" outfits to move over a little bit ! More competition !
Thank you very much for the info and input !!
boB
> boB G wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> > Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> > >
> > > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > > and running and will probably need a few more.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Olivier
> > >
> >
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
> >
> > Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> > I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> > than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
> >
> > I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
> >
> > Thank you Olivier !!
> >
> > boB
> >
> > > bobtransformer wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> > ,
> > > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In l...
> > ,
> > > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> > wondering
> > > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work
> > for
> > > > JTAG
> > > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much
> > about
> > > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > boB
> > > > > >
> > > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> > want to
> > > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > > don't get confused !!
> > > >
> > > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> > freedom of
> > > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > > acknowledgement.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > > >
> > > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > > their compiler !
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > > >
> > > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > > >
> > > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > > >
> > > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > > >
> > > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would
> > like
> > > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> > proof
> > > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do
> > make
> > > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list,
> > like
> > > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of
> > some
> > > > sort ??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for listening !
> > > >
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another Bob
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Olivier Gautherot
> > > *Email:* olivier@
> > > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
>
> Olivier Gautherot
> *Email:* olivier@...
> *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
>
>
>
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
Now, if only I could find someplace with the Olimex ARM-JTAG-EW in
stock for less than $172 USD that would be great !!
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-jtag-ew.html has them for 100 Euros.
That's probably around $172 USD. I've heard of $100 USD and $79 USD from places that do NOT have them in stock. It's easy I guess to sell for cheaper if you don't actually have to deliver it.
boB
--- In l..., "boB G" wrote:
>
> --- In l..., Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> >
> > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > and running and will probably need a few more.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Olivier
> >
> That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
>
> Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
>
> I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
>
> Thank you Olivier !!
>
> boB
> > bobtransformer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l... ,
> > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l... ,
> > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> > > JTAG
> > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > boB
> > > > >
> > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > >
> > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > don't get confused !!
> > >
> > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > acknowledgement.
> > >
> > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > >
> > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > their compiler !
> > >
> > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > >
> > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > >
> > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > >
> > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > >
> > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > >
> > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> > > sort ??
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening !
> > >
> > > boB
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > >
> > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > >
> > > > Another Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Olivier Gautherot
> > *Email:* olivier@
> > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
stock for less than $172 USD that would be great !!
http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-jtag-ew.html has them for 100 Euros.
That's probably around $172 USD. I've heard of $100 USD and $79 USD from places that do NOT have them in stock. It's easy I guess to sell for cheaper if you don't actually have to deliver it.
boB
--- In l..., "boB G" wrote:
>
> --- In l..., Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> >
> > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole environment up
> > and running and will probably need a few more.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Olivier
> >
> That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
>
> Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
>
> I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
>
> Thank you Olivier !!
>
> boB
> > bobtransformer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In l... ,
> > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l... ,
> > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am wondering
> > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will work for
> > > JTAG
> > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know much about
> > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > boB
> > > > >
> > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really want to
> > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and regretting?
> > >
> > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards so we
> > > don't get confused !!
> > >
> > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's lack
> > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my freedom of
> > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > acknowledgement.
> > >
> > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and then
> > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that order. I
> > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > >
> > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these "warnings"
> > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over with by
> > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > their compiler !
> > >
> > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > >
> > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address 0xE01FC08c
> > >
> > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > >
> > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it STILL
> > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > >
> > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I would like
> > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet proof
> > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they do make
> > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > >
> > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR list, like
> > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB, etc. and
> > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution of some
> > > sort ??
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening !
> > >
> > > boB
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > >
> > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple months ago
> > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > >
> > > > Another Bob
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Olivier Gautherot
> > *Email:* olivier@
> > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Reply by ●May 9, 20122012-05-09
Bob,
Check this:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Olimex-Ltd/ARM-USB-OCD-H/?qs=hO3QYTFrOd1fELAmpV2t0XVkbwS%252b17zW3T5%2fFySND9A%3d
http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id25
http://www.amazon.com/JTAG-USB-OCD-Tiny-Programmer/dp/B004G56JVE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid36615542&sr=8-2
Hope it helps
Cheers
Olivier
boB G wrote:
>
> Now, if only I could find someplace with the Olimex ARM-JTAG-EW in
> stock for less than $172 USD that would be great !!
>
> http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-jtag-ew.html has them for 100 Euros.
> That's probably around $172 USD. I've heard of $100 USD and $79 USD
> from places that do NOT have them in stock. It's easy I guess to sell
> for cheaper if you don't actually have to deliver it.
>
> boB
>
> --- In l... ,
> "boB G" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> > >
> > > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole
> environment up
> > > and running and will probably need a few more.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Olivier
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
> >
> > Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> > I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> > than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
> >
> > I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
> >
> > Thank you Olivier !!
> >
> > boB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > bobtransformer wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> wondering
> > > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will
> work for
> > > > JTAG
> > > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know
> much about
> > > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > boB
> > > > > >
> > > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> want to
> > > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and
> regretting?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards
> so we
> > > > don't get confused !!
> > > >
> > > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's
> lack
> > > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> freedom of
> > > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > > acknowledgement.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and
> then
> > > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that
> order. I
> > > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > > >
> > > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these
> "warnings"
> > > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over
> with by
> > > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > > their compiler !
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > > >
> > > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address
> 0xE01FC08c
> > > >
> > > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > > >
> > > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it
> STILL
> > > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > > >
> > > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I
> would like
> > > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> proof
> > > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they
> do make
> > > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR
> list, like
> > > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB,
> etc. and
> > > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution
> of some
> > > > sort ??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for listening !
> > > >
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple
> months ago
> > > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another Bob
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Olivier Gautherot
> > > *Email:* olivier@
> > > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
--
Olivier Gautherot
*Email:* o...@gautherot.net
*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
*Web:* www.gautherot.net
*LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
Check this:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Olimex-Ltd/ARM-USB-OCD-H/?qs=hO3QYTFrOd1fELAmpV2t0XVkbwS%252b17zW3T5%2fFySND9A%3d
http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id25
http://www.amazon.com/JTAG-USB-OCD-Tiny-Programmer/dp/B004G56JVE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid36615542&sr=8-2
Hope it helps
Cheers
Olivier
boB G wrote:
>
> Now, if only I could find someplace with the Olimex ARM-JTAG-EW in
> stock for less than $172 USD that would be great !!
>
> http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-jtag-ew.html has them for 100 Euros.
> That's probably around $172 USD. I've heard of $100 USD and $79 USD
> from places that do NOT have them in stock. It's easy I guess to sell
> for cheaper if you don't actually have to deliver it.
>
> boB
>
> --- In l... ,
> "boB G" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In l... ,
> Olivier Gautherot wrote:
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > you can try to look at the Olimex JTAG interface - there is some
> > > literature on how to install OpenOCD with the IAR IDE
> > > (http://www.olimex.com/dev/soft/arm/JTAG/Manual_IAR.pdf)
> > >
> > > OpenOCD is a nice piece of code but surely not the most plug-and-play
> > > that you can find (my initial experience with LPCXpresso was a lot
> > > better). I've already spent a few days getting the whole
> environment up
> > > and running and will probably need a few more.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Olivier
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about !
> >
> > Maybe someone else here has used it ??
> > I understand it's only $99 which is WAY better
> > than $300 for the J-Link.... IF it works OK.
> >
> > I'll just have to buy one (or two ?) and find out !
> >
> > Thank you Olivier !!
> >
> > boB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > bobtransformer wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > > "Bob T" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In l...
> ,
> > > > "boB G" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using IAR EWARM 5.40 with the IAR J-Link Segger and am
> wondering
> > > > > > what other JTAG debuggers are people using here that will
> work for
> > > > JTAG
> > > > > > debugging from within the IAR IDE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I see a list of debugging possibilities but I don't know
> much about
> > > > > > any of the alternatives that may work OK here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > boB
> > > > > >
> > > > > You can use the emulators of Lauterbach, Hitex, Signum.... ;-)
> > > > > Why are you trying to find an alternative for something in this
> > > > price range? You've been around in this forum for a while, my
> > > > assumption is you are not a zero budget student. Do you really
> want to
> > > > invest hours in finding out and then days in debugging and
> regretting?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Bob and also thank you for spelling your name backwards
> so we
> > > > don't get confused !!
> > > >
> > > > The reason I am looking elsewhere is that I don't like Segger's
> lack
> > > > of support on their forum and am just trying to exercise my
> freedom of
> > > > choice here. They tend to ignore what I have mentioned without
> > > > acknowledgement.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having problems lately with (evidently) my USB drivers
> > > > getting corrupt and having to re-install the J-Link drivers and
> then
> > > > re-boot the computer. Every few days, or once a week it seems at
> > > > least, I have been having to re-install and re-boot, in that
> order. I
> > > > have also found that I must NOT have the IAR IDE open while
> > > > re-installing otherwise I continue to receive the errors.
> > > >
> > > > The other problem is that the message I get doesn't make sense and
> > > > when the warning, (which is really an error), comes up, telling me
> > > > that the target is running, takes about 10 seconds to come up again
> > > > and I have to Control-Alt-Delete and stop the DRIVER and IAR IDE
> > > > tasks, otherwise I have to click through about 10 of these
> "warnings"
> > > > which takes about a minute and 1/2 before I have control again.
> > > > I still have to re-install and re-boot so I just get it over
> with by
> > > > ending the task. I sure wish IAR had a Linux or Mac OS X version of
> > > > their compiler !
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the general error I am talking about is this,
> > > >
> > > > Warning: Write failed (target is running) at Memory address
> 0xE01FC08c
> > > >
> > > > with a different address appearing every time the message comes up.
> > > >
> > > > And if I unplug the USB cable while receiving these errors, it
> STILL
> > > > continues to give me the error and totally disregards the fact that
> > > > there ~IS~ no target to even run as the USB cable is unplugged !
> > > >
> > > > I feel like Segger has the IAR/ARM world by the balls and I
> would like
> > > > to try and help, in some small way, to increase their competition
> > > > which might just start these companies to care and make a bullet
> proof
> > > > product. We need competition ! So does IAR of course, but they
> do make
> > > > a compiler at least that compiles fairly efficient code but they
> > > > certainly have their big company problems too.
> > > >
> > > > I see a list of possibilities for JTAG debugging on the IAR
> list, like
> > > > Macraigor, ST-Link, RDI (which Segger also runs),Angel, GDB,
> etc. and
> > > > I know about zilch about any of them. Isn't GDB a Gnu solution
> of some
> > > > sort ??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for listening !
> > > >
> > > > boB
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Segger gets you pretty much the best bang for your money.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a new JTAG debugger that IAR announced a couple
> months ago
> > > > but I do not know the name nor if they can ship already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another Bob
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> > > >
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> > > Olivier Gautherot
> > > *Email:* olivier@
> > > *Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
> > > *Web:* www.gautherot.net
> > > *LinkedIn:* http://www.linkedin.com/in/ogautherot
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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Olivier Gautherot
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*Cel:* +56 98 730 9361
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