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MPLAB 5.70.40 is integrated with HI-TECH PICC compiler v8.02 PL1

Started by Bruce Sam October 15, 2004

What projects are you working on?

I like JAL, because I'm a programmer and can write my own libraries
if one of the included ones don't work right (I had to write my own
UART, software serial, I2C, and 1-wire). I've also used CC5X, but
there's a code limit on the free version (and I'm a cheap SOB).

If you don't have much of a programming background I'd suggest
sticking with one compiler for a while (I'd rather build stuff than
spend time learning a new compiler). When you're really good and
comfortable with one it makes it easier to try out or switch to a new
one.

There's also nothing wrong with assembly; some of my JAL libraries
are written in assembly.

Mike --- In , "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote:
> Yeah - I might have a closer look at JAL
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> For hobbyists, I don't see a problem with JAL.
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AVR-
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--- In , "upand_at_them" <upand_at_them@y...>
wrote:
>
> What projects are you working on?
>
> I like JAL, because I'm a programmer and can write my own libraries
> if one of the included ones don't work right (I had to write my own
> UART, software serial, I2C, and 1-wire). I've also used CC5X, but
> there's a code limit on the free version (and I'm a cheap SOB).

I also like JAL, (use it for everything from instrumentation to
robotics, music synthesis... in fact the last big project on the list
was 10-baseT interfacing and various libraries) and have been using it
for about a year an a half.
Silly me, the first language I learned was pascal... sherman set the
wayback machine.... so JAL just fit right into my old limited
programming language knowledge base.

check out thier yahoo group jallist, lots of ppl helping each other
with hints, libraries etc....

gb



At the moment, real life is the only project I've got time for :(
 
I like the look of JAL.
 
I understand that ANSI C isn't really feasible with the PIC RISC instruction set. I love C but I can see JAL is much better suited to PICs.
 
Next chance I have I'll get into some JAL.
 
Since I have so many PICs sitting around and I saw www.futurlec.com have STA013 for US$6.90 and CS4334 DACs fro US$2.90, I thought one of my next projects should be to create an MP3 player - I know it has been done to death but what the hay!
 
Maybe Olimex will accept a PCB design and make a free PCB for me ;)
 
Thanks,
Nigel
 
 
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Subject: [piclist] Re: MPLAB 5.70.40 is integ .... Sorry, coincidence, so new thread. Is it worth it?


What projects are you working on?

I like JAL, because I'm a programmer and can write my own libraries
if one of the included ones don't work right (I had to write my own
UART, software serial, I2C, and 1-wire).  I've also used CC5X, but
there's a code limit on the free version (and I'm a cheap SOB).

If you don't have much of a programming background I'd suggest
sticking with one compiler for a while (I'd rather build stuff than
spend time learning a new compiler).  When you're really good and
comfortable with one it makes it easier to try out or switch to a new
one.

There's also nothing wrong with assembly; some of my JAL libraries
are written in assembly.

Mike--- In p...@yahoogroups.com, "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote:
> Yeah - I might have a closer look at JAL
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: upand_at_them
>   To: p...@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:29 PM
>   Subject: [piclist] Re: MPLAB 5.70.40 is integ ... Sorry,
coincidence, so new thread. Is it worth it?>
>   For hobbyists, I don't see a problem with JAL. 
>
>   Mike>   --- In p...@yahoogroups.com, "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...>
wrote:
>   > If only there was a viable open-source alternative for PIC like
AVR-
>   GCC for AVR>
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A couple things you might not like about JAL: no string support and
no array support. A couple of the members in the jallist have
written array libraries - for me it looked like more code overhead
than I wanted. I've worked around both of these shortcomings without
trouble.

CC5X is good too, but there's no accurate delay library. At least
with the free version. Vardelay for JAL is very accurate.

One of these days I'll get around to getting JAL to work with an
MMC/SD. Was going to use the MMC for my balloon flight computer but
I shelved it quickly in favor of a 512K EEPROM.

Mike --- In , "Nigel Symes" <symesbris@h...> wrote:
> At the moment, real life is the only project I've got time for :(
>
> I like the look of JAL.
>
> I understand that ANSI C isn't really feasible with the PIC RISC
instruction set. I love C but I can see JAL is much better suited to
PICs.
>
> Next chance I have I'll get into some JAL.