>would be happy providing you with the information
necessary for you to
>support their products if they saw your attitude to >other people's
>property.
I and my company DO NOT advocate any kind of piracy, and use only open
source software. Personally I am against piracy, but the objection was about
banning people using a particular software.
Let the list be simple question - answer type, and have peace...
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh,
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
10/1, IT Park, Parsodi,
Nagpur -440022, INDIA.
Meet us at -
K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
----- Original Nachricht ----
Von: Mukund Deshmukh
An: l...
Datum: 21.07.2010 15:49
Betreff: Re: [lpc2000] Re: CrossWorks for ARM - Simple led blink code
doesn't run on lpc2368
> > tolerated that people like you seem to
encurage/defend such abuse nor
> > should such list users get any kind of support from this comunity.
> >
> > Many of us here make a living with writeing software. I bet you too also
> > don't work for free.
> >
> > Sure, just my 2...
>
> If there is nothing to reply, dont waste your 2 cents also....
>
> If OP wants to use licensed or pirated software, that's up to OP and
the
> company which makes that software.....
>
> It is not list job to check / encourage / discourage, pirated / license /
> legal / software.
>
> Surely, no reply is expected, so don't waste your 2 cents also.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Mukund Deshmukh,
> Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
> 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi,
> Nagpur -440022, INDIA.
>
> Meet us at -
> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
CrossWorks for ARM - Simple led blink code doesn't run on lpc2368
Started by ●July 19, 2010
Reply by ●July 22, 20102010-07-22
Reply by ●July 22, 20102010-07-22
Mukund,
I see you snipped the pieces of my reply that you didn't really want to
address. Oh well.
>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind >eye to any crime?
>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view,
>> it
>> indicates no social or ethical >responsibility at all.
>
> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
> public list who do not use licence copy of your software.
Perhaps you should look back at the archives to find who originally
suggested the ban and then retract that statement--if you're man enough.
> Well, your policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the
> public mailing
> list.
There you go again--setting policy.
>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>> others feel too warm either.
>
> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own
> decision.
>
>> Meet us at -
>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
>
>> I think not.
> You are still welcome!!
>
> Dear Leon,
> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest
> close the thread.
This is a public forum, by your own words, and Leon moderates it. There
is no possibility of 'closing' the thread by the moderator.
--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
SolderCore arriving Winter 2010! http://www.soldercore.com
I see you snipped the pieces of my reply that you didn't really want to
address. Oh well.
>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind >eye to any crime?
>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view,
>> it
>> indicates no social or ethical >responsibility at all.
>
> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
> public list who do not use licence copy of your software.
Perhaps you should look back at the archives to find who originally
suggested the ban and then retract that statement--if you're man enough.
> Well, your policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the
> public mailing
> list.
There you go again--setting policy.
>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>> others feel too warm either.
>
> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own
> decision.
>
>> Meet us at -
>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
>
>> I think not.
> You are still welcome!!
>
> Dear Leon,
> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest
> close the thread.
This is a public forum, by your own words, and Leon moderates it. There
is no possibility of 'closing' the thread by the moderator.
--
Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
SolderCore arriving Winter 2010! http://www.soldercore.com
Reply by ●July 22, 20102010-07-22
On 22/07/2010 07:16, Mukund Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind>eye to any crime?
>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view, it
>> indicates no social or ethical>responsibility at all.
>
> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
> public list who do not use licence copy of your software. Well, your
> policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the public mailing
> list.
>> Warm Regards,
>
>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>> others feel too warm either.
>
> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own decision.
>
>> Meet us at -
>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Düsseldorf, Germany.
>
>> I think not.
> You are still welcome!!
>
> Dear Leon,
> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest close
> the thread.
I can't. This isn't a forum.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM
>
>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind>eye to any crime?
>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view, it
>> indicates no social or ethical>responsibility at all.
>
> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
> public list who do not use licence copy of your software. Well, your
> policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the public mailing
> list.
>> Warm Regards,
>
>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>> others feel too warm either.
>
> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own decision.
>
>> Meet us at -
>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Düsseldorf, Germany.
>
>> I think not.
> You are still welcome!!
>
> Dear Leon,
> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest close
> the thread.
I can't. This isn't a forum.
Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM
Reply by ●July 22, 20102010-07-22
>Mukund,
>I see you snipped the pieces of my reply >that you didn't really want to
>address. Oh well.
Closing the thread from my side..
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh,
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
10/1, IT Park, Parsodi,
Nagpur -440022, INDIA.
Meet us at -
K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
>I see you snipped the pieces of my reply >that you didn't really want to
>address. Oh well.
Closing the thread from my side..
Warm Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh,
Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd,
10/1, IT Park, Parsodi,
Nagpur -440022, INDIA.
Meet us at -
K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
Reply by ●July 23, 20102010-07-23
I use Linux and the GNU tool chain for all my development, be it AVR,
MSP430, ARM, or native PC. The cost of that development environment
is initially quite high because of the learning curve, but monetarily
it's free.
Stealing software makes one a thief, plain and simple. But it also
shows laziness, because they are unwilling to learn how to use Open
Source tools.
Defending a lazy thief doesn't show a lot of character either. I side
with Paul.
DaveS
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Paul Curtis wrote:
> Mukund,
>
> I see you snipped the pieces of my reply that you didn't really want to
> address. Oh well.
>
>>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind >eye to any crime?
>>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view,
>>> it
>>> indicates no social or ethical >responsibility at all.
>>
>> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
>> public list who do not use licence copy of your software.
>
> Perhaps you should look back at the archives to find who originally
> suggested the ban and then retract that statement--if you're man enough.
>
>> Well, your policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the
>> public mailing
>> list.
>
> There you go again--setting policy.
>
>>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>>> others feel too warm either.
>>
>> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own
>> decision.
>>
>>> Meet us at -
>>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
>>
>>> I think not.
>> You are still welcome!!
>>
>> Dear Leon,
>> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest
>> close the thread.
>
> This is a public forum, by your own words, and Leon moderates it. There
> is no possibility of 'closing' the thread by the moderator.
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> SolderCore arriving Winter 2010! http://www.soldercore.com
>
MSP430, ARM, or native PC. The cost of that development environment
is initially quite high because of the learning curve, but monetarily
it's free.
Stealing software makes one a thief, plain and simple. But it also
shows laziness, because they are unwilling to learn how to use Open
Source tools.
Defending a lazy thief doesn't show a lot of character either. I side
with Paul.
DaveS
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Paul Curtis wrote:
> Mukund,
>
> I see you snipped the pieces of my reply that you didn't really want to
> address. Oh well.
>
>>> So you're a self-appointed list spokesperson now? And policeman too?
>>> That's rich. Your logic indicates you turn a blind >eye to any crime?
>>> That attitude just stinks. Heck, you should be scrubbed for that view,
>>> it
>>> indicates no social or ethical >responsibility at all.
>>
>> Not me, It's you acting as policeman, by suggesting to ban people from a
>> public list who do not use licence copy of your software.
>
> Perhaps you should look back at the archives to find who originally
> suggested the ban and then retract that statement--if you're man enough.
>
>> Well, your policing is fully justified on your forum, but not on the
>> public mailing
>> list.
>
> There you go again--setting policy.
>
>>> I think not. It doesn't make me feel warm. Looks like it doesn't make
>>> others feel too warm either.
>>
>> I am sorry but that's your feeling, and let others take their own
>> decision.
>>
>>> Meet us at -
>>> K2010, Booth No. 12C40,Dseldorf, Germany.
>>
>>> I think not.
>> You are still welcome!!
>>
>> Dear Leon,
>> I thing nothing can be resolved further from this thread, so I suggest
>> close the thread.
>
> This is a public forum, by your own words, and Leon moderates it. There
> is no possibility of 'closing' the thread by the moderator.
>
> --
> Paul Curtis, Rowley Associates Ltd http://www.rowley.co.uk
> SolderCore arriving Winter 2010! http://www.soldercore.com
>
Reply by ●July 23, 20102010-07-23
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 20:36:46 Nicholas Lusty wrote:
> Mukund,
>
> Before speaking, I think you should consider the main audience of
> this mailing list.
Cool down guys. Most on the list will not support the use of an
illegal copy, even though many of us will holler loudly about stupid
per cpu /seat / eyeball licences.
If someone asks for support related to a closed tool chain, without a
reasonable preamble, point him to the right list or dont reply. there
is no need to go ballistic with crappy personal hygiene statements,
moral statements etc.
As far as i can see nobody has plugged warez here, which imo should
call for an immediate ban. Nor do i see any need for pontification
and witch hunts.
And before some one calls me names, I use only floss and i too am
totally against using an unlicenced copy.
--
Rgds
JTD
> Mukund,
>
> Before speaking, I think you should consider the main audience of
> this mailing list.
Cool down guys. Most on the list will not support the use of an
illegal copy, even though many of us will holler loudly about stupid
per cpu /seat / eyeball licences.
If someone asks for support related to a closed tool chain, without a
reasonable preamble, point him to the right list or dont reply. there
is no need to go ballistic with crappy personal hygiene statements,
moral statements etc.
As far as i can see nobody has plugged warez here, which imo should
call for an immediate ban. Nor do i see any need for pontification
and witch hunts.
And before some one calls me names, I use only floss and i too am
totally against using an unlicenced copy.
--
Rgds
JTD
