If you guys recall last
weeks heated discussion over Linux and DC compiler compatibility with it,
the same gentleman(?) hurled insults at anyone that disagreed with him.
If he believes that he is already doing evrything correctly and it still
doesn't work, why is he asking for help and not digging into the problem
with some good old fashioned troubleshooting.
Bob
Larry Kilmer
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02/18/2004 06:46 PM
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Thanks,
I don't mind helping but when someone else says it
isn't going to work I have a problem with someone who
has not done due diligence engineering to solve their
problem.
I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help
people but they should be thankful for the help.
LK
--- Ken Shail <k...@shail.co.uk> wrote: > Larry
> You were quite justified in taking offence.
> I really can not understand his "attitude".
> You obviously took some considerable time to try and
> help and then he
> criticised you for "a lot of words".
> This forum mainly consists of volunteers who go out
> of their way to help.
> That should appreciated.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Kilmer" <l...@yahoo.com>
> To: <r...@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable
> > I was trying to help, if you want info on the
> Maxim
> > chip, go to their website that is what those of us
> who
> > build systems do. Attitude I don't need.
> >
> > Live long and prosper
> >
> > LK
> > --- German Pablo Gentile
> > <l...@cyberiait.com.ar> wrote:
> > > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 18:06, Larry Kilmer
> > > escribi
> > > > A quick look at the cable pinouts for all RCM
> > > products indicates that
> > > > all debug cables are identical with the
> exception
> > > of power
> > > > requirements for the 232 converter. Again a
> > > cursory look at the power
> > > > requirements indicates that for the 2000
> series
> > > Rabbits the 232
> > > > converter is supplied with 5 volts while the
> 3000
> > > series is supplied
> > > > with 3.3 volts. Possibly the 232 converter
> isn't
> > > getting enough power
> > > > to work. As another thought, I don't think
> the
> > > 3000 series RCM will
> > > > like being driven by a 5 volt power supply if
> you
> > > are using one. The
> > > > schematics for the development card have a 5
> volt
> > > regulator for
> > > > support chips and a 3.3 volt regulator for
> feeding
> > > the processor and
> > > > those chips that need that voltage level.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Off course I already power the RCM300 with 3.3
> v.
> > > and see the pinout and
> > > schematics, and ask about the maxim chip, so : A
> lot
> > > of words ans
> > > nothing to take...
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > German.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Reply by Ken Shail●February 19, 20042004-02-19
Larry
Absolutely,.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Kilmer" <lkkilmer@lkki...>
To: <rabbit-semi@rabb...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable
> Thanks,
> I don't mind helping but when someone else says it
> isn't going to work I have a problem with someone who
> has not done due diligence engineering to solve their
> problem.
>
> I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help
> people but they should be thankful for the help.
>
> LK
> --- Ken Shail <ken@ken@...> wrote:
> > Larry
> > You were quite justified in taking offence.
> > I really can not understand his "attitude".
> > You obviously took some considerable time to try and
> > help and then he
> > criticised you for "a lot of words".
> > This forum mainly consists of volunteers who go out
> > of their way to help.
> > That should appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Kilmer" <lkkilmer@lkki...>
> > To: <rabbit-semi@rabb...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable
> >
> >
> > > I was trying to help, if you want info on the
> > Maxim
> > > chip, go to their website that is what those of us
> > who
> > > build systems do. Attitude I don't need.
> > >
> > > Live long and prosper
> > >
> > > LK
> > > --- German Pablo Gentile
> > > <listas.ggentile@list...> wrote:
> > > > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 18:06, Larry Kilmer
> > > > escribi
> > > > > A quick look at the cable pinouts for all RCM
> > > > products indicates that
> > > > > all debug cables are identical with the
> > exception
> > > > of power
> > > > > requirements for the 232 converter. Again a
> > > > cursory look at the power
> > > > > requirements indicates that for the 2000
> > series
> > > > Rabbits the 232
> > > > > converter is supplied with 5 volts while the
> > 3000
> > > > series is supplied
> > > > > with 3.3 volts. Possibly the 232 converter
> > isn't
> > > > getting enough power
> > > > > to work. As another thought, I don't think
> > the
> > > > 3000 series RCM will
> > > > > like being driven by a 5 volt power supply if
> > you
> > > > are using one. The
> > > > > schematics for the development card have a 5
> > volt
> > > > regulator for
> > > > > support chips and a 3.3 volt regulator for
> > feeding
> > > > the processor and
> > > > > those chips that need that voltage level.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Off course I already power the RCM300 with 3.3
> > v.
> > > > and see the pinout and
> > > > schematics, and ask about the maxim chip, so : A
> > lot
> > > > of words ans
> > > > nothing to take...
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > German.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Reply by German Pablo Gentile●February 19, 20042004-02-19
Thanks Patrick. I will do that.
German.
El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 09:49, Patrick Reitelbach escribi > Cut the shrink wrap off and replace the level
shift chip with a
> MAX3232. They work 3.0 - 5.5 v. Digikey has them.
>
Reply by German Pablo Gentile●February 19, 20042004-02-19
El mi 18-02-2004 a las 20:46, Larry Kilmer escribi
> I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to
help
> people but they should be thankful for the help.
>
That sentences is really amazing!!! Sound like the first world help the
rest of the world.
Never stop of surprise to me your feelings about the world.
Sounds like you are kidding, so i will take like that.
Best regards.
German.
Reply by German Pablo Gentile●February 19, 20042004-02-19
El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 10:28, bhohentanner@bhoh... escribi > If you guys recall last weeks heated discussion
over Linux and DC
> compiler compatibility with it, the same gentleman(?) hurled insults
> at anyone that disagreed with him. If he believes that he is already
Bob:
I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one people who
discriminate to people not having english like the first language.
Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard with that man, anyway i
already say sorrry to the list.
> doing evrything correctly and it still
doesn't work, why is he asking
> for help and not digging into the problem with some good old fashioned
> troubleshooting.
> I really do the things ok, i just answer the maxim differs between
cables because i dont have bot cables. If larry read again the mail can
see that.
Best regards.
German.
Reply by George Georgiev●February 19, 20042004-02-19
.......................
,
...
i monumentum (1836), Alexander Pushkin
Despite Russian language is another foreign language for me, some classics
have said it almost two centuries ago...
One of those with English not as a first language,
George
-----Original Message-----
From: German Pablo Gentile [mailto:listas.ggentile@list...]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:51 PM
To: Lista Rabbit
Subject: Re: [rabbit-semi] RCM300 Cable
El jue, 19-02-2004 a las 10:28, bhohentanner@bhoh... escribi?: > If you guys recall last weeks heated discussion
over Linux and DC
> compiler compatibility with it, the same gentleman(?) hurled insults
> at anyone that disagreed with him. If he believes that he is already
Bob:
I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one people who
discriminate to people not having english like the first language.
Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard with that man, anyway i
already say sorrry to the list.
> doing evrything correctly and it still
doesn't work, why is he asking
> for help and not digging into the problem with some good old fashioned
> troubleshooting.
> I really do the things ok, i just answer the maxim differs between
cables because i dont have bot cables. If larry read again the mail can
see that.
Best regards.
German.
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Reply by lkkilmer●February 19, 20042004-02-19
--- In rabbit-semi@rabb..., German Pablo Gentile
<listas.ggentile@c...> wrote: > El mi 18-02-2004 a las 20:46, Larry Kilmer
escribi
>
> > I guess that you Brits ans us Americans want to help
> > people but they should be thankful for the help.
> >
> I accept my statement may be out of bounds, but I stand by the fact
that
you did not accept my spending time to help and slapped me in the
face. If you want to start over, I am willing to do so. I am not
first world, second world, third world or any other world, I am an
engineer who works for a living as I guess you do.
Enjoy life, you can only smell the roses for so long.
LK
> That sentences is really amazing!!! Sound like the
first world help the
> rest of the world.
> Never stop of surprise to me your feelings about the world.
> Sounds like you are kidding, so i will take like that.
>
> Best regards.
>
> German.
Reply by Mike van Meeteren●February 19, 20042004-02-19
I was just gonna let this slide, but I can't:
At 05:50 PM 2/19/2004 -0300, you wrote: > I dont insult everyone that disagreed, just to one
people who
>discriminate to people not having english like the first language.
So now you're calling me a racist? You've got some nerve. English is
not
my first language either (surprised?) I did nothing last week but bring
the facts as I see them to the table. It didn't get nasty until you
started hurling insults at myself and anyone else that entered into the
discussion. Even at that point, I didn't stoop to your level and start
hurling insults back. Maybe you're discriminatory towards people whose
English is better than yours.
> Recheck the dissussion. Heated? I only be hard
with that man, anyway i
>already say sorrry to the list.
Maybe you should apologize to the people who you were calling names.