What is your development setup on Linux (or equiv)?

I've spent some 25 years developing software on CP/M, various 80s home
computers and finally, DOS and Windows.  Now (coinciding, ahem, with
the release of Vista...) I think it's way past time that I looked at
Linux (and perhaps one of the BSDs) as a development platform.

What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
comments.

Mike

On Jun 20, 11:06 am, Mike Silva <snarflem...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any

It depends what you're targeting. Are you just desirous of using Linux
as your desktop OS, or are you developing for Linux targets, or what?
Is the target big enough to run the compiler directly? What micros are
you intending to use?

I am working with several micros at the moment, and here are my
setups. All of the software that I'm currently running inside MacOS
could be run under Linux if desired:

Cell/BE:
PlayStation 3 (60GB edition) is the target. I run the compiler on the
target. I export the source directory using nfs and edit the files
directly using eclipse running on my main workstation (which, at the
moment, is a 2.16GHz MacBook running OSX). I have a telnet window open
to the PS3, and I run make in that window. Currently I also run gdb in
that window, though it would be more efficient to run it natively on
the Mac.

MSP430:
This development is currently done on a PC. I use Rowley's CrossWorks.
Avail for Linux/Windows.

ARM:
This development is currently done on a PC. I use Rowley's CrossWorks.
Again avail for Linux/Windows. These are OSless designs.

With MSP430 and ARM I am currently using Windows because I need to run
other s/w at the same time, which is not presently available for
Linux. But I could do the firmware development under Linux if I wanted
to; I have in the past.

AVR:
Currently I do this natively in MacOS. I use avrgcc, with eclipse as
my editor. Note that Rowley also has an AVR compiler/IDE for Linux/
Windows.

Java (yes I use it in embedded designs): eclipse on MacOS again. Linux
would actually be better due to more up-to-date Java support, but the
system I have works okay for now.

On Jun 20, 11:32 am, larwe <zwsdot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 11:06 am, Mike Silva <snarflem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> > Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> > else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> > cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
>
> It depends what you're targeting. Are you just desirous of using Linux
> as your desktop OS, or are you developing for Linux targets, or what?
> Is the target big enough to run the compiler directly? What micros are
> you intending to use?

I'm in self-improvement mode at the moment, which means that while I'm
thinking mostly of 32-bit targets I don't have anything particular in
mind, though I do have s small ARM SBC I'd like to play with (too
small to run Linux).  I'd also like to try cross-developing (on Linux)
for some larger SBC (tbd) that is running Linux.  Maybe something
built around an MPC5** or Coldfire device.

"Mike Silva" <snarflemike@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1182352000.671672.36170@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.

I myself do a lot of web development on Linux (a text-only box), and I use 
Emacs as the editor.

However, when I purchased SlickEdit a while back for my Windows box, I do 
remember that they have a version for Linux.

That would be very much worth investigating as an editor.

www.slickedit.com

Dave.
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 Mike Silva <snarflemike@yahoo.com> writes:

> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.

Emacs, make, gcc, and gdb.

Petter
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Mike Silva wrote:
> I've spent some 25 years developing software on CP/M, various 80s home
> computers and finally, DOS and Windows.  Now (coinciding, ahem, with
> the release of Vista...) I think it's way past time that I looked at
> Linux (and perhaps one of the BSDs) as a development platform.
> 
> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.

For the chips supported by the GNU tools (GCC, as, ld, gdb, ...):

  - GNU tools for compilation and creating the
    binary images,

  - nedit for an editor under X,

  - gdb for debugging,

  - ddd for running gdb under X.

I tried Eclipse, but, IMHO, it's too heavy. Just plain
old GNU make will do the repetitive work as well, though
it's not as flashy as some IDE.

-- 

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

On 2007-06-20, Petter Gustad <newsmailcomp6@gustad.com> wrote:
>  Mike Silva <snarflemike@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
>> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
>> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
>> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
>> comments.
>
> Emacs, make, gcc, and gdb.

jed (in emacs mode), make, gcc, and (occasionally) gdb.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! My mind is a potato
                                  at               field ...
                               visi.com            

Mike Silva wrote:
> I'm in self-improvement mode at the moment, which means that while I'm
> thinking mostly of 32-bit targets I don't have anything particular in
> mind, though I do have s small ARM SBC I'd like to play with (too
> small to run Linux).  I'd also like to try cross-developing (on Linux)
> for some larger SBC (tbd) that is running Linux.  Maybe something
> built around an MPC5** or Coldfire device.

With that in mind, you will want to become familiar with
GCC cross compilers.

<http://gcc.gnu.org/>

The CrossGCC mailing list
<http://sourceware.org/ml/crossgcc/> is worth joining
if you get into building your own cross compilers.

Dan Kegal's crosstool script is worthy if you start
building cross toolchains targeted at Linux based
embedded systems.

When building GCC cross toolchains for "bare metal"
embedded systems, newlib is nice to know about,
and the GCC build machinery makes it fairly easy
to build.

<http://sourceware.org/newlib/>

I can't help you on editors too much, other
than to say vi (a.k.a. vim) is the ultimate
text editor ;-)

Linux is an adventure.

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"Mike Silva" <snarflemike@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1182352000.671672.36170@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I've spent some 25 years developing software on CP/M, various 80s home
> computers and finally, DOS and Windows.  Now (coinciding, ahem, with
> the release of Vista...) I think it's way past time that I looked at
> Linux (and perhaps one of the BSDs) as a development platform.
>
> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.
>
> Mike

I use  linux or linux in vmware.
Currently fedora core 6 and just having a test with fedora 7 .

Usually command line for compiling + kedit.
Vim if I not running x.

Eclipse if I need an ide (is pretty slow even on fast machines)
But usually find I'm more productive
with command line compiling(and tools) + plain text editor.

Some tools you need to compile yourself from sources others are available 
prepackaged.

Atmel provides pre-packaged tools for avr32.

Also use a mini mac.
Currently just for avr , m68k and arm.

The bsd's and mac are easier to setup than linux
due to the ports collections (fink or darwin ports on mac)
avr osx package is mac equivalent of winavr.

Alex 

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:06:40 -0700, Mike Silva wrote:

> What I'd like to find out is what folks are using to develop on
> Linux.  In particular, what editors or IDEs are you using?  

JEdit, gcc/binutils, make (for C). Eclipse (for java)

> And what
> else would you tell somebody looking to start developing native and
> cross-platform embedded software on Linux?  Many thanks for any
> comments.

Other resources, maybe:

Linux programming - Advanced Programming in the UNIX(R) Environment (2nd
Edition) (Addison-Wesley Professional Computing Series)

Some general sys admin (e.g BASH, setting up networking, etc - search
'Linux howtos', or www.oreilly.com)

Device Drivers - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/

Regards,

Paul Taylor.